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Tuesday, August 31, 2004

VERY interesting lucid astral travel dream last night.

very very strange too! I found myself flying into a room, in the PAST, sometime in what appears to be around 1800 to 1880, or so. There was a man in the room, i recognized his name, a name that stands tall in the philosophy-writing world, i cannot now recall it!! we talked about his life, he was still a young man.
about what??? i do not know. seemed very real, as if i had traveled into the past.
traveled to meet him in a astral replica of his room, probably.

then i left, then i flew astrally in the open air, i could see the contyside below me change as i stood still, 300 feet off of the ground, as if i was traveling in TIME, not in space! then i came to a open square where there was a wagon-thing on the ground where people were jumping off of. this place seemed to be ""now" in time, or perhaps around the time of my birth, 1941. I fell onto this wagon, then slid off onto the ground. i then purposely placed my hand upon the ground. I tried to get away from this wagon, but my hand was caught in it somehow, then i woke up!

interpetation: I went into the astral past and when i came back to my body, in the "now", i was shown that i cannot leave the earth just yet, will not DIE, will not be permitted to die at the time that i was suspecting of!!!
[this late year or early next!]

interesting....."quirky body" or not, i may indeed be here for awhile...

lots of prayer, meditation, today!

seemed that i was supposed to have died, back in late 1998, but that because i had "helped" a group of souls, i have to be here on the earth for them, for a while.

If i am right, i will be here for years yet!!

whew!!

VERY interesting lucid astral travel dream last night.

very very strange too! I found myself flying into a room, in the PAST, sometime in what appears to be around 1800 to 1880, or so. There was a man in the room, i recognized his name, a name that stands tall in the philosophy-writing world, i cannot now recall it!! we talked about his life, he was still a young man.
about what??? i do not know. seemed very real, as if i had traveled into the past.
traveled to meet him in a astral replica of his room, probably.

then i left, then i flew astrally in the open air, i could see the contyside below me change as i stood still, 300 feet off of the ground, as if i was traveling in TIME, not in space! then i came to a open square where there was a wagon-thing on the ground where people were jumping off of. this place seemed to be ""now" in time, or perhaps around the time of my birth, 1941. I fell onto this wagon, then slid off onto the ground. i then purposely placed my hand upon the ground. I tried to get away from this wagon, but my hand was caught in it somehow, then i woke up!

interpetation: I went into the astral past and when i came back to my body, in the "now", i was shown that i cannot leave the earth just yet, will not DIE, will not be permitted to die at the time that i was suspecting of!!!
[this late year or early next!]

interesting....."quirky body" or not, i may indeed be here for awhile...

lots of prayer, meditation, today!

seemed that i was supposed to have died, back in late 1998, but that because i had "helped" a group of souls, i have to be here on the earth for them, for a while.

If i am right, i will be here for years yet!!

whew!!

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

VERY interesting lucid astral travel dream last night.

very very strange too! I found myself flying into a room, in the PAST, sometime in what appears to be around 1800 to 1880, or so. There was a man in the room, i recognized his name, a name that stands tall in the philosophy-writing world, i cannot now recall it!! we talked about his life, he was still a young man.
about what??? i do not know. seemed very real, as if i had traveled into the past.
traveled to meet him in a astral replica of his room, probably.

then i left, then i flew astrally in the open air, i could see the contyside below me change as i stood still, 300 feet off of the ground, as if i was traveling in TIME, not in space! then i came to a open square where there was a wagon-thing on the ground where people were jumping off of. this place seemed to be ""now" in time, or perhaps around the time of my birth, 1941. I fell onto this wagon, then slid off onto the ground. i then purposely placed my hand upon the ground. I tried to get away from this wagon, but my hand was caught in it somehow, then i woke up!

interpetation: I went into the astral past and when i came back to my body, in the "now", i was shown that i cannot leave the earth just yet, will not DIE, will not be permitted to die at the time that i was suspecting of!!!
[this late year or early next!]

interesting....."quirky body" or not, i may indeed be here for awhile...

lots of prayer, meditation, today!

seemed that i was supposed to have died, back in late 1998, but that because i had "helped" a group of souls, i have to be here on the earth for them, for a while.

If i am right, i will be here for years yet!!

whew!!

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

IVAN.

I saw a weather channel weather discussion, today, at about 5 pm, that blew me away!

gotta be the *most* unuaual weather map that i have ever ever saw, in the last 40 years!!

Ivan!
it went. it moved, it died, off of the shores of the carolinas, moving northeastwards. just a mass of showers, slowly rotating.
it went east, then it moved south, then it moved WEST!!!
so there it sits.
40 miles east of
FORT LAUDERDALE, fla! moving west. wind speed of maybe 20 mph, not even tropical depression strength. moving west.
Ivan is still with us and it is about to "hit" florida...there are now heavy showers
all through the south part of the state.

no winds, but it IS Ivan!

they say it will go out into the Gulf of mexico. maybe get stronger. then it will have to have a Name. "Ivan" of course. suppose it then moves north towards the area of west florida and Alabama!
wince!
if only 60 mph, still it has to be Named, oh what stresssss for all the people there.
Another trip through the mountains??

????

gotta be the strangest map. the strangest season too.
is Gene moving northeast?
well....yeas it is, but they expect it to turn south, then turn west, make a LOOP, maybe or maybe not.

better not have any stock in insurance companies unless the stock is held SHORT.......this year!

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

marina@sonic.net>, "CARD"


I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.
however.....
I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!
the year 2000. or 2001.
we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.
NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!
I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!
"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!
First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!
I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.
yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!
or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.
soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!
Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!
so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!
so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

well after i posted, just now, my article about the bumper sticker...."GET THOSE CHRISTMAS CAROLS OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS, i read *this*, below, in the new york times.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/04/nyregion/04communion.html



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October 4, 2004
Communion and Illness in Conflict
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

RIELLE, N.J. - Haley Waldman, 8 years old, with stringy brown hair and a sensitive stomach, comes from a Roman Catholic family, and her mother is on a quest for her to take holy communion the same way as any other Catholic girl.

But Haley cannot eat wheat. She suffers from celiac disease, an obscure but increasingly diagnosed condition that strikes the small intestine, and even the trace amount of wheat in the communion wafer, or host, can make her ill.

So she and her mother, who live in Brielle, on the Jersey Shore about 60 miles south of Manhattan, are asking the Catholic Church to make an exception. They want a wafer without wheat. They even tracked down a Seattle company that bakes special wheat-free communion wafers that several other Christian denominations, like Methodists and Episcopalians, allow.

Haley's quest has reached all the way up to the Vatican, reverberating in parishes, on talk radio and in newspaper columns, and rallying various groups of celiac sufferers to the third grader's side.

But so far, the church isn't budging.

"Bread, to be valid matter for the eucharist, must be made solely of wheat," said a statement issued by their diocese on behalf of the Catholic Church. "This is not an issue to be determined at the diocesan or parish level, but has already been decided for the Roman Catholic Church throughout the world by Vatican authority."

But Haley and her mother are not backing down, even though they have lost the first couple of rounds of this fight. Last winter, when Haley and her mother first asked for a wheat-free wafer, church officials handed down a strict communion commandment: Thou shall not eat rice. Or soy.

Then, in May, when Haley's family found a New Jersey priest who offered to surreptitiously slip her a soy wafer at the altar, the Bishop of Trenton found out and invalidated her communion, saying that only wheat wafers are holy.

"I don't want to bash the church," said Haley's mother, Elizabeth Pelly-Waldman. "But Christ would not have turned away my child for a medical condition."

Ms. Pelly-Waldman, 30, a mother of four who is in the middle of a divorce, has been writing letters to the Vatican, marching in walks and waging a publicity war from a small, tidy house where flourless peanut butter cookies sit in the fridge and wheat-free pretzels on the counter.

"Who am I to take on 2,000 years of history?" she asks.



Celiac, a genetic disease, affects 1 in 133 people, including many who are never get tested and fail to make the connection between intense stomach pain and eating gluten, an elastic protein in wheat and other grains.

In New Jersey, where about 35 percent of the population is Catholic, some question the Vatican's stance at a time of hemorrhaging church membership and priest abuse scandals.

"Jesus was compassionate," said the Rev. Kenneth Lasch, a retired priest from Mendham. "Why can't they be?"

Others line up behind tradition.

"The rules are the rules," said Msgr. Christopher C. DiLella, of Madison. "And they're coming from Rome."



[I belive this is the defeinition of "Facicism/Nazi-ism", where the State is greater than the individual, and that one must submit always to the State.!!]



"We've never made any exceptions on this because we have to safeguard the sacraments," said a priest who works with the Congregation for Divine Worship, a Vatican committee overseeing Catholic practices, and who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "I get the sense this mother is a little bit stubborn."

And she may be. The church offered Haley a low-gluten wafer, but her mother rejected it, based on the advice of several doctors, including a gastroenterologist at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. They said any amount of gluten could be harmful.

The Vatican has said that those who cannot eat wheat can skip the wafer and drink the consecrated communion wine, another way to partake in the ritual. But Haley's mother still said no.

"It's not appropriate for children to drink alcohol," she said. "Even a sip."

Haley's father, Jason Waldman, a bartender and sometimes construction worker who is not Catholic, thinks the church is being rigid. At the same time, he said his wife may be carrying this a bit far.




According to Catholic Canon 924, "The most sacred eucharistic sacrifice must be celebrated with bread and wine." It also states, "The bread must be made of wheat alone." This comes from the Catholic belief that Christ ate unleavened wheat bread at the Last Supper and handed out pieces to his disciples, saying, "This is my body."

But nowhere in the Bible is wheat bread specified. Some people even think the Last Supper bread was made from barley.

"Theologically, there's no reason why Catholics have to have a wheat wafer," said Mahlon H. Smith, a Methodist minister and religion professor at Rutgers University. "I don't know why they're insisting on this."

Catholic scholars concede the wheat-only rule comes from tradition - just like many other rituals in Catholicism. And Vatican officials say they confronted the wheat issue before. Years ago, Filipino Catholics asked the church if they could bake communion wafers from rice, much easier to grow in the tropics. The Vatican said no. Vatican officials also said that the communion ritual is so central to Catholicism that men who cannot eat wheat hosts wafers should not become priests. Some Catholics have left the church over this. In one well-documented case, a Boston family quit their congregation and joined a Methodist church after their daughter, a celiac patient, was denied a wheat-free host. Annette Bentley, president of the American Celiac Society, published a study on celiac disease and religious rites in 1988 in The Journal of General Psychology. She found that many people with celiac disease who received communion were pocketing the wafers or discretely spitting them out.



Ms. Pelly-Waldman shared her frustrations with the news media, and after articles about Haley came out, several priests contacted the family, offering to perform her communion with a wheat-free host.

The family ended up going to a Catholic priest "just down the road," Mr. Waldman said. They agreed to keep his identity a secret. But Ms. Pelly-Waldman invited a local newspaper reporter to attend the Mass at which Haley received communion, and after the reporter wrote about the service, Bishop John M. Smith of the Diocese of Trenton issued a statement saying Haley's communion was invalid.

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go get a bumper sticker NOW to get these xmas carols out of our schools.

and

vote for Kerry!!


I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.
however.....
I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!
the year 2000. or 2001.
we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.
NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!
I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!
"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!
First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!
I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.
yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!
or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.
soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!
Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!
so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!
so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

VERY interesting lucid astral travel dream last night.

very very strange too! I found myself flying into a room, in the PAST, sometime in what appears to be around 1800 to 1880, or so. There was a man in the room, i recognized his name, a name that stands tall in the philosophy-writing world, i cannot now recall it!! we talked about his life, he was still a young man.
about what??? i do not know. seemed very real, as if i had traveled into the past.
traveled to meet him in a astral replica of his room, probably.

then i left, then i flew astrally in the open air, i could see the contyside below me change as i stood still, 300 feet off of the ground, as if i was traveling in TIME, not in space! then i came to a open square where there was a wagon-thing on the ground where people were jumping off of. this place seemed to be ""now" in time, or perhaps around the time of my birth, 1941. I fell onto this wagon, then slid off onto the ground. i then purposely placed my hand upon the ground. I tried to get away from this wagon, but my hand was caught in it somehow, then i woke up!

interpetation: I went into the astral past and when i came back to my body, in the "now", i was shown that i cannot leave the earth just yet, will not DIE, will not be permitted to die at the time that i was suspecting of!!!
[this late year or early next!]

interesting....."quirky body" or not, i may indeed be here for awhile...

lots of prayer, meditation, today!

seemed that i was supposed to have died, back in late 1998, but that because i had "helped" a group of souls, i have to be here on the earth for them, for a while.

If i am right, i will be here for years yet!!

whew!!

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

marina@sonic.net>, "CARD"

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.
however.....
I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas. About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too! *then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!
the year 2000. or 2001.
we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!we made it!! we made it to the next age.
NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!
I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachyas every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege willbe the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!
"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!
First this will occur politically and socially. Occur with Mankind. then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!
I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.
yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!or....move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!
or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.
soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!
Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth'spsychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!
so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home![notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]Old Souls Going Home.maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...Omenious!!Rapture in slow motion!
soenjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

well after i posted, just now, my article about the bumper sticker...."GET THOSE CHRISTMAS CAROLS OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS, i read *this*, below, in the new york times.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/04/nyregion/04communion.html



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October 4, 2004
Communion and Illness in Conflict
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

RIELLE, N.J. - Haley Waldman, 8 years old, with stringy brown hair and a sensitive stomach, comes from a Roman Catholic family, and her mother is on a quest for her to take holy communion the same way as any other Catholic girl.

But Haley cannot eat wheat. She suffers from celiac disease, an obscure but increasingly diagnosed condition that strikes the small intestine, and even the trace amount of wheat in the communion wafer, or host, can make her ill.

So she and her mother, who live in Brielle, on the Jersey Shore about 60 miles south of Manhattan, are asking the Catholic Church to make an exception. They want a wafer without wheat. They even tracked down a Seattle company that bakes special wheat-free communion wafers that several other Christian denominations, like Methodists and Episcopalians, allow.

Haley's quest has reached all the way up to the Vatican, reverberating in parishes, on talk radio and in newspaper columns, and rallying various groups of celiac sufferers to the third grader's side.

But so far, the church isn't budging.

"Bread, to be valid matter for the eucharist, must be made solely of wheat," said a statement issued by their diocese on behalf of the Catholic Church. "This is not an issue to be determined at the diocesan or parish level, but has already been decided for the Roman Catholic Church throughout the world by Vatican authority."

But Haley and her mother are not backing down, even though they have lost the first couple of rounds of this fight. Last winter, when Haley and her mother first asked for a wheat-free wafer, church officials handed down a strict communion commandment: Thou shall not eat rice. Or soy.

Then, in May, when Haley's family found a New Jersey priest who offered to surreptitiously slip her a soy wafer at the altar, the Bishop of Trenton found out and invalidated her communion, saying that only wheat wafers are holy.

"I don't want to bash the church," said Haley's mother, Elizabeth Pelly-Waldman. "But Christ would not have turned away my child for a medical condition."

Ms. Pelly-Waldman, 30, a mother of four who is in the middle of a divorce, has been writing letters to the Vatican, marching in walks and waging a publicity war from a small, tidy house where flourless peanut butter cookies sit in the fridge and wheat-free pretzels on the counter.

"Who am I to take on 2,000 years of history?" she asks.



Celiac, a genetic disease, affects 1 in 133 people, including many who are never get tested and fail to make the connection between intense stomach pain and eating gluten, an elastic protein in wheat and other grains.

In New Jersey, where about 35 percent of the population is Catholic, some question the Vatican's stance at a time of hemorrhaging church membership and priest abuse scandals.

"Jesus was compassionate," said the Rev. Kenneth Lasch, a retired priest from Mendham. "Why can't they be?"

Others line up behind tradition.

"The rules are the rules," said Msgr. Christopher C. DiLella, of Madison. "And they're coming from Rome."



[I belive this is the defeinition of "Facicism/Nazi-ism", where the State is greater than the individual, and that one must submit always to the State.!!]



"We've never made any exceptions on this because we have to safeguard the sacraments," said a priest who works with the Congregation for Divine Worship, a Vatican committee overseeing Catholic practices, and who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "I get the sense this mother is a little bit stubborn."

And she may be. The church offered Haley a low-gluten wafer, but her mother rejected it, based on the advice of several doctors, including a gastroenterologist at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. They said any amount of gluten could be harmful.

The Vatican has said that those who cannot eat wheat can skip the wafer and drink the consecrated communion wine, another way to partake in the ritual. But Haley's mother still said no.

"It's not appropriate for children to drink alcohol," she said. "Even a sip."

Haley's father, Jason Waldman, a bartender and sometimes construction worker who is not Catholic, thinks the church is being rigid. At the same time, he said his wife may be carrying this a bit far.




According to Catholic Canon 924, "The most sacred eucharistic sacrifice must be celebrated with bread and wine." It also states, "The bread must be made of wheat alone." This comes from the Catholic belief that Christ ate unleavened wheat bread at the Last Supper and handed out pieces to his disciples, saying, "This is my body."

But nowhere in the Bible is wheat bread specified. Some people even think the Last Supper bread was made from barley.

"Theologically, there's no reason why Catholics have to have a wheat wafer," said Mahlon H. Smith, a Methodist minister and religion professor at Rutgers University. "I don't know why they're insisting on this."

Catholic scholars concede the wheat-only rule comes from tradition - just like many other rituals in Catholicism. And Vatican officials say they confronted the wheat issue before. Years ago, Filipino Catholics asked the church if they could bake communion wafers from rice, much easier to grow in the tropics. The Vatican said no. Vatican officials also said that the communion ritual is so central to Catholicism that men who cannot eat wheat hosts wafers should not become priests. Some Catholics have left the church over this. In one well-documented case, a Boston family quit their congregation and joined a Methodist church after their daughter, a celiac patient, was denied a wheat-free host. Annette Bentley, president of the American Celiac Society, published a study on celiac disease and religious rites in 1988 in The Journal of General Psychology. She found that many people with celiac disease who received communion were pocketing the wafers or discretely spitting them out.



Ms. Pelly-Waldman shared her frustrations with the news media, and after articles about Haley came out, several priests contacted the family, offering to perform her communion with a wheat-free host.

The family ended up going to a Catholic priest "just down the road," Mr. Waldman said. They agreed to keep his identity a secret. But Ms. Pelly-Waldman invited a local newspaper reporter to attend the Mass at which Haley received communion, and after the reporter wrote about the service, Bishop John M. Smith of the Diocese of Trenton issued a statement saying Haley's communion was invalid.

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go get a bumper sticker NOW to get these xmas carols out of our schools.

and

vote for Kerry!!

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

KERRY.
once more, and i am NOT gonna bash him this time!!

I had a long talk with an old friend of 30 years, today, at the coffee shop, followed by a mile long walk home, to ponder our talk!

I found his "take" on Kerry to be much much more than interesting, sports fans.

what he said, he being an Astrologer, was that Kerry bears the traits of his sign
sagittarius....pushy, outgoing and "not nice", he thinks a lot and is a profund thinker and thinkers are NOT too acceptable to the american president as the People seem to want warm fuzzy feel-good presidents! [read: not challanging or threatening!] he thought that maybe a thinking president might be just what we need.
he says that thinking people, of the tall thin body-build, tend not to be "social" and warm and friendly!

He has, i see now, much more than a Point, my friend's talk!

I am being to think, as i walked that mile, that what this country NEEDS is someone
who is just what kerry is like!
that we all should accept what the music of this age is trying to tell us: the rap music, the Hip-Hop music, the 3,047 issues need to be addressed NOW and that there is so much anger in all of us that we need an "angry" president!!
anger about the War...about the Erosion of the middle class...etc..etc...

the Arrogance is what might be needed to make social change, like of Kennedy!

the "darkness' is what is needed to pitch out the remmants of the "Moral majority" ways of morals and thinkings! [probably there are many MORE catholic priests who sex kids: get them out now....]
even maybe that anti-christmas carol bumper sticker, that i wrote of, in my last post, might have Merit, as nowadays half the people in the country are NOT christians!! deeeeply offensive to Jews...muslums...etc, a xmas carol is!!

so i might vote for Kerry after all: what this country needs is a stiff dose of
sulpheric acid thinkings, done by a thinking man.

Bush is a cancer sun sign, the traits of non-verbalness and trusting his advisors
get him into trouble! not a sign for decisive thinkings!

so it might come to this: until the issues raised in Hip-hop/rap are addressed, Kerry
might be the man, one's feelings be Dammed!! my own feelings will not count, as what might be good for the country might be "darkness...anger...arrogance", not what i feel!!

there is a saying that i heard once:
"most social activists are not warm and friendly, you would not want to invite them for dinner for a chat. they tend to be forthright and abrasive and are out to get you to Come Around to sanity, in spite of your fixatations upon something "old"!
they want you to change, niceness is not their way!"
we all would be living yet in the stone age, maybe, if it were not for these people!!

so i do not count, here, in my perceptions of kerry. I probably will now vote for him....

marina@sonic.net>, "CARD"


I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.
however.....
I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!
the year 2000. or 2001.
we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.
NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!
I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!
"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!
First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!
I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.
yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!
or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.
soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!
Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!
so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!
so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

well I went and read that book, that book that i refered to, in my last entry, the book of channeled material from Trance, where four Guides spoke through a medium, in England, around 1992.
[this morning's weblog entry: the last post before this one]

while I liked the material channeled, i was brought up rudely short by something that i see in ALL spirit teachings!! all of the Teachings that i read seem to be *very* colored by the culture that the mediums and class of students are in!

So here are four guides....

one guide is a ex-Roman soldier who guarded the Coliseum when the christians were so killed there. then he became a christian himself and was put to death in the coliseum! About four places, in the chapters, he INSISTS utterly utterly that "why in one week alone there were, in Rome, more people killed in the coliseums, there, then, then in *ALL* of WW I, WWII, and the Holocast combined!
100,000,000 million in one week: do your math, 1.4 million an hour!
he insists with GREAT FEELING that this figure is right. over and over.

then there is another Guide who whenever he speaks about "meat-eating" i can SEE
right in the print his fixed feelings about eating "dead rotten matter"!
"fixed" as in..."never bend a millimeter: break first"! Someone asked him about whether Jesus ate meat; he replied that all of this was "symbolic-only".

[contrast what another Teacher-guide wrote, in another channeling, where he wrote/spoke...."most vegetarians would NOT like to know what Jesus ate! He ate what everyone else around him ate, which included fish, goat, lamb, etc.etc..."]

you do not wanna read what these four guides say about "abortion" or "vivisection"!

English mediums from the spiritualist path.
steeped in their culture. and even a roman soldier, after 2000 years, has not changed his thinkings, exactly what i have read: people do not really change much after they die, the place to really change, is on earth, thus this is why Reincarnation exists, they stand in line just for this!!

even Sathya Sai baba, is a sponge steeped in the India culture.
"no one who eats meet is a disciple of Mine" [oops, guess i will go with Jesus!]
"one should eat...[India food"...a long list of India food]
" the most important thing to do on earth is to marry and have a family and true love takes years to develop, so "who" is not important" [arranged marriages]

[ all zen people disciples eat macrobiotic food, the daily food of the 1400 AD japanese
temple people ]

I have read about 50 biographies of jesus, written by guides and each is different and often radically so!

so.
I find that one must be really *really* discerning, when reading channeled material.
their is Bias at every level, for as long as their is a independant soul giving the channeled messege, that messege is spoken in the tone and of the "surround" of the
culture that the Guide once lived in. then you add the medium's own coloring. then you add the class of students too: their own culture!

funny....many of the Liberals who are very Critical of any channelings or spirit-given writings, where they tear into what is said ala the "Scepical inquirer" type of magizine and attitude: why they accept any and all words, of their favorite
Liberal left political candidate, with utter acceptance, a sponge soaking up water.
the Right too. the new agers too. when a political candidate comes along that seems to speak the Ways of a group of people's percieved needs, why they soak it up without a bit of critical thinkings!!!

thus only 50 to 70 percent is true, in any one spirit messege, probably. like in life from any political candidate, or from any newspaper article about anything.


KERRY.
once more, and i am NOT gonna bash him this time!!

I had a long talk with an old friend of 30 years, today, at the coffee shop, followed by a mile long walk home, to ponder our talk!

I found his "take" on Kerry to be much much more than interesting, sports fans.

what he said, he being an Astrologer, was that Kerry bears the traits of his sign
sagittarius....pushy, outgoing and "not nice", he thinks a lot and is a profund thinker and thinkers are NOT too acceptable to the american president as the People seem to want warm fuzzy feel-good presidents! [read: not challanging or threatening!] he thought that maybe a thinking president might be just what we need.
he says that thinking people, of the tall thin body-build, tend not to be "social" and warm and friendly!

He has, i see now, much more than a Point, my friend's talk!

I am being to think, as i walked that mile, that what this country NEEDS is someone
who is just what kerry is like!
that we all should accept what the music of this age is trying to tell us: the rap music, the Hip-Hop music, the 3,047 issues need to be addressed NOW and that there is so much anger in all of us that we need an "angry" president!!
anger about the War...about the Erosion of the middle class...etc..etc...

the Arrogance is what might be needed to make social change, like of Kennedy!

the "darkness' is what is needed to pitch out the remmants of the "Moral majority" ways of morals and thinkings! [probably there are many MORE catholic priests who sex kids: get them out now....]
even maybe that anti-christmas carol bumper sticker, that i wrote of, in my last post, might have Merit, as nowadays half the people in the country are NOT christians!! deeeeply offensive to Jews...muslums...etc, a xmas carol is!!

so i might vote for Kerry after all: what this country needs is a stiff dose of
sulpheric acid thinkings, done by a thinking man.

Bush is a cancer sun sign, the traits of non-verbalness and trusting his advisors
get him into trouble! not a sign for decisive thinkings!

so it might come to this: until the issues raised in Hip-hop/rap are addressed, Kerry
might be the man, one's feelings be Dammed!! my own feelings will not count, as what might be good for the country might be "darkness...anger...arrogance", not what i feel!!

there is a saying that i heard once:
"most social activists are not warm and friendly, you would not want to invite them for dinner for a chat. they tend to be forthright and abrasive and are out to get you to Come Around to sanity, in spite of your fixatations upon something "old"!
they want you to change, niceness is not their way!"
we all would be living yet in the stone age, maybe, if it were not for these people!!

so i do not count, here, in my perceptions of kerry. I probably will now vote for him....

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

http://freespace.virgin.net/byrne.john/fst/

FOUR SPIRIT TEACHERS

Marcus · Manyomin · Mayet Ptah · Mentor

TRANCE TALKS

Through the Mediumship of SHEILA JONES

WITH QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Recorded by John Mainwood
Transcribed and Edited by John Byrne

This book has been compiled from the recorded trance lectures given at the Spiritualist Association of Great Britain by the four main spirit teacher-guides of Sheila Jones, who is the trance medium for: Manyomin, Marcus, Mayet Ptah and Mentor - see further details in the foreword.
----I hope this book will be of help and interest to all who read it and I will be very happy if it gives some comfort, knowledge, love and optimism to those who are troubled and searching for peace, truth and understanding.

freestone: I like this one. all 26 chapers are here on this site. one of the guides speaks through the Medium, then the class asks questions. This book will take time to read. Enjoy!

Saturday, August 28, 2004

One reason that i do not write more, i find, is that i never can think of anything to say, when i sit down! comes with being somewhat Autistic, i guess.

the other day a friend asked me if i had any interesting dreams of late and i could not answer him at all. seems that any dream that i could think of, is wrapped up with 20 others and it would take me all day to ramble ramble ramble.
this friend, like all other people, like things to the point! I cannot blame him, but i do not think this way. I have often had to "fall back on", when encountered by strangers on the bus or where ever, to fall back on a kind of "new york city" hashness of accent and tone, because there is NOT 45 minutes to tell this person about the 538 shades of "pea green", that my reply will entail. "sensitivity"
equals "nothing can be said"!!
like: my "rant" about anything of politics! any such rant. any statement that deals with reality that is "49% one thing and 51% the opposite thing, like politics, it would take about 500 sentences to make myself clear about any simple political thing!
It does not help that i think only in pictures! there are not one picture in politics!
Even a question from someone..."will it rain today", is unaswerable!
take me 30 minutes to explain.

see...there is no "yes or no" to anything! in my book, each "thing" that is "bad" has a silver lining, and anything that is "good" has a very very dark side!
often IS "49% vs 51%"!
anything good someone tells me, i can counter it with its valid opposite. and vs-versa!

raise the minimum wage?
yes?
send all our jobs to Asia as all the employers cannot now afford to pay that wage.
*and* the nanosecond after that the wage is raised, ALL the things that the poor buy and need will go up 20% in cost!

go on a diet? I am beginning to read that *IS* the one sure fire way to gain weight 10 years down the road, to an even higher level.

MORAL: anything and everything is interconnected to all things, so that if you move just one thing, all the sticks get re-arranged, there are unforeseen consequences to each and every Act, as all is intertwinned!

raise that wage and your favorite coffee shop closes.
go on a diet and then get age-lines in your now-skinny face and then you pay $$$ for the operation!

thus...sports fans...when i talk of "one thing" it is interconnected to all things so that i find it inCrrrrrrrredibly difficult to just talk about one thing without bringing in other topics, sometimes 20 or more, as all is intertwinned: if you asked
me to give to you for a moment so that you can look at it, my wool sweater, you would think me a bit weird if i were to pull off three threads and then give them to you: you want all that sweater! all the threads make the sweater.
thus, in my writings in my weblog, as well as in my talkings, i am unashame-edly

biased and bigoted

as I can only type about 5 wpm and thus all the "interconnected sensitivities", that require 59 other sentences to explain, cannot be said at all!
same with talking to someone. i would bore to death, constantly explaining my explains and then adding yet more and then more...

---so ask me about raising taxes to pay for schools! this is an example of my problem, this statement.
how, how can i tell you?!!
yes?
no?
that is what most want as an answer, but i see 597 shades of "yes", or...*AND* "no"!
and all at the same time and valid!

why?
how?
what side effect will there be?
who will pay for it?
how about the people without kids, will they pay?
what else will not be paid for: the bus, the road repairs?
---and 200 other questions and concerns.

a story.

A man sees a mosquito about to land on his arm, and he lives in a Nile Virus epedemic county.
He has about two choices.

1...immediately swat this mosquito, even though he could make a mistake, like that mosquito is actually an enemy of the species that carries the Virus! Or hurt his arm, in the violence of his quick act! but he Acts!
[reminds me of the tale of St.Peter meeting a man coming to heaven from earth and finding that the man did little good, so he has no chance of heaven. but he did no
evil either: he cannot even go to Hell! thus he remains in a grey Limbo forever...]
far FAR better to make a mistake, than do nothing!!

2...He could get the opinion of all the neighbors who live in his city block first, and even take the mosquito's feelings into account as it truly needs the blood in order to hatch its eggs! then think of 30 ways to try to hit this mosquito, taking advice from one and all, first. This could take hours...days! Maybe the best solution is to just let the mosquito Feed on his blood, after all, doctors need the Income too!

I guess you all know who i am going to vote for, in the presidential election!!!

Wednesday, August 25, 2004

OOPS!!

somehow, with an error problem, the other day, i ended up posting that loooong
post about FIVE times!
then the comments did not work.

well there is now only ONE of that entry now, and the comments work again.

Tuesday, August 24, 2004

One of, i think, the most articulate articles about the Iraq war, from channing/spirit/mediums!!

the RA people
http://www.llresearch.org/main.htm





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War and the Light
March 16, 2003
Group question: The question today has to do with how light seems to respond to catastrophe. So many people
are marching for peace, now that it seems war is so likely. The women in Rwanda have had a chance to bring the
feminine principle and the nurturing [quality] of their being into [the governing of] their country now that most of
the men have been killed. Would Q’uo talk to us about how the possibility of catastrophe and disaster can help to
bring the light into being in our world today?
(Carla channeling)
We are those of the principle known to you as Q’uo and we greet you in the love and in the light of the one
infinite Creator, in Whose service we are. As always, we thank this group for creating an opportunity for us to
share our thoughts and we are most happy to do so on this occasion, with the request, as always, that each evaluate
our thoughts on the basis of those thoughts alone and not on the basis of our authority. The resonances of personal
truth have nothing to do with authority. We ask you to use your discrimination carefully, for there is much
information and much of it is excellent but there is always that precise choice of that which is truly your own that
is possible. The great challenge of the maturing spiritual entity is to move beneath the surface of things and to
begin to see things not from an historical or political point of view but rather from a spiritual point of view, a
stance or attitude which has its basis in those dynamics which truly are functioning within the heart of that
situation which is called “history” in its outer manifestations.
The dynamics of harvest for your particular planet at this particular juncture are not those which could loosely be
described as a “normal” third-density harvest. This instrument has frequently made jokes concerning the status of
Earth or Gaia as a planet for juvenile delinquents who have repeatedly flunked third grade at other schools and are
finally sent to Earth when it is felt that they are incorrigible. The profoundly militaristic energies that your peoples
experience at this time are, as has been discussed by the one known as J and the one known as Jim, the fruit of
repetition over many civilizations, many wars and even many planets. Those upon your sphere have experienced
misalignments of energies and misjudgments of polarity in honest but misguided efforts to attempt to serve and to
grow. And the nature of the decisions which have capitulated previous societies into catastrophe, catastrophic war,
the leveling of that which was wealthy and sophisticated to the so-called dark ages, is a pattern that has been
repeated not once or twice but many times. Consequently, your present harvest has overtones and undertones from
many previous expressions of the iterating mechanism which turns love into fear and fear into aggression. The
energies that are present at this time are iterative energies, energies that have become mindless, that have, in a
tremendously profound sense, become obsessed, obsessed to the level of the archetype, so that it is as though your
harvest expresses the archetype of the Lightning-Struck Tower with an intensity that could be achieved only by
mindless repetition past the point of self-knowledge and into a state of mind of slavery, of which we see your
peoples attempting with ever fresher energy to snap and break the control at this time, so that the human spirit
might once again become liberated from this endless round of fear and hostility.
The reason that the so-called disaster is found to have a silver lining is simply that your peoples, beneath the veneer
of those decisions made by the few which affect the culture or the experience of all, are as the rind of dead energy
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that is enclosing a very fresh fruit that has been growing from the inside out and is coming to a state of ripeness.
Consequently, those who are in power at this time, being more of a service-to-self tribe, shall we say, create the
apparent history, the apparent news, the apparent ongoing story of your peoples. Whereas the true story of your
peoples is that story that moves from the heart that moves from the seed of the fruit that has ripened within the
rind of militarized thinking that infects your planet at this time. The inner fruit is healthy. And in times of disaster
the rind of militaristic thinking is chipped away and people suddenly become aware that they are alive and in
considerable and substantial opposition in feeling and in mind to those militaristic actions which tend to be the
agenda of the day for any group of those who hold power at any time.
We cannot say that it is impossible for entities to hold power without becoming service-to-self oriented. We can
only say that it is catalyst for all entities to respect those moments when power is offered. Each of you has a power
in this situation, each of you who are part of the healthy fruit of Earth, that fruit which is being harvested at this
time. [Each] has the power, passion and energy of a growing, living, thriving being. That energy is of the One,
connected to the root, to the womb, to the Earth, to the Mother. The goodness that springs forth in almost all
entities’ breasts is that goodness which is the truth of the human race, just as the militaristic shell of humanity’s
behavior is a truth. It is a part of a truth that attempts to take over the entire consciousness of what the human
entity is. In assuming that such separating ideas as aggression have worth, the standpoint of those with power is
continually biased more and more towards that attitude which accepts the power to change others for the better.
This is the innocent beginning of that which can become a monstrous evil, as this instrument would call it.
What a flower does to praise the Creator is to blossom. And what each of you may do to praise the Creator is to
allow yourself to blossom. Those elements of cultural thinking which have infected each mind to whom we speak
will show themselves to you with their thorns, their warts, and their scars. And you will gaze upon them and they
will not be fair. There will be thoughts of anger, jealousy and retribution. These will not be true thoughts, yet these
are thoughts that are pressed upon you daily, and have been since your youth. There is no judgment in thinking
these thoughts, and we would not ask you to judge yourself for finding yourself with the capacity to think them.
But indeed, you have the capacity to be conscious of them, to evaluate them and, if you find them to be those
thoughts which do not allow you to blossom, then you may, by choice, pluck those thoughts from ready memory
and replace them with one that is more close to the heart of that which you truly feel to be the spiritual truth of the
situation. Each shadow that you remove from your own flowering being is one less barrier betwixt you and the sun
that gives you life, the Logos that sends the energy that creates each moment.
As the crisis period continues, you may find yourself in any number of situations in which there will be the choice
of moving from the militaristic rind of thought that infects the planetary thought at this time at the level of those
in power or choosing to think from a spiritual point of view in which all entities are seen as souls in the service of
the one infinite Creator in various ways. As the one known as J has said, some entities must draw the short stick;
some entities must accept being the bad example. Each entity which is perceived by the seeker to be a service-to-self
entity bent on the destruction of the good is also a soul who is serving perfectly, in his own way, attempting to
learn the same lessons, those lessons of love and how to love. Always, the choice of how to love. For those who are
on the service-to-self path also have passion, but it is the passion for the self, to arrange the world in which the self
is satisfied, safe and comfortable. It is easy to see a display of evil and good, dark and light, yet we ask you to move
beyond this somewhat limiting image of the present harvest, for it not a battle betwixt good and evil. It is, rather, a
battle for thought. It is a battle betwixt those who would wish to enhance and lift and enlighten in a great
outpouring of radiated love and those who would control, contract and shepherd the world as they would wish it
to be controlled. Expansion or contraction? You are experiencing the contractions of fear of those who are in power
and, yes indeed, because of these encroachments of aggression, upon the very citizens in whose name they are
promulgated. This pressure has produced a kind of explosion of healthy, blossoming, passionately engaged human
beings who have now experienced themselves as souls; who have a deep and passionate feeling about that which is
the appropriate action for themselves, their families and their country.
It is indeed a precious moment and a promising time of rapidly awakening consciousness planet-wide and it has
been pressed into being and encouraged by the seemingly disastrous policies of those who wish war among your
peoples at this time. And we may say without expressing any unknown information, certainly, it is not one entity
or a small group of entities which wishes the engagements of war and the reallocations of territory and power.
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There is pressure planet-wide, at the level of those who remember whole societal-wide, catastrophic scenarios and
wish beyond all reason to reinvent them, that presses these entities onward.
Much of this harvest, then, expresses enormously deep archetypical energies that have been stuck for an unusually
long period of time, repeating seemingly endless cycles of rising towards the light, rising towards union, rising
towards an awareness of love in its unconditional and redeeming aspect, only to fall back to the level of the great
apes and their tribal loyalties and the protection of the family group. It is a great ascent that the human attempts
in third density, to move from beast to angel, from a mute and unspeaking love to a supernal, wordless
expression of love. In between those two lies the third density and in that density you have the forgetting that
allows your voice to be uncertain; that allows your mind not to know; that allows your heart to make foolish
choices and then to experience change because of them.
Each of you is a wonderful flower that blossoms daily, that opens to the light, that has your own unique aroma
and habit and form. Each of you is a tremendous blessing to this planet by your being. You are as those who have
fought alongside each other for many, many years. This is another time, another opportunity to stand together
and to fight for the light, not [to be] against anything, but to do the inner battle that wins through to the armor
of light, to face the self in every day in the morning light that shows all flaws clearly. This is your geste, to gaze in
that mirror and see the flaws and see also the one infinite Creator, to gaze into the world as it is and see past the
rind of militaristic thinking, see past this deadening infection that has blotted the surface of your thoughts with a
kind of mildew. Remove yourself from the surface; remove yourself from that which is not truly your own
thinking. Come back into the heart of your flowering being and feel the strength, the passion, the love that
resides and rests there, just as it has always rested over the deep before any form was. That is the peace that lies
within your heart. It is a sweet peace; it is a true peace; it is the original peace. And it is a piece of you, that which
can never be separated from you. Nothing can separate you from the love of the infinite Creator. Nothing can
separate you from the truth of your being. Nothing can separate you from yourself.
We wish to express thanks to the outer expressions of this group in the context of your political situation, for
those who light a candle for peace express a beautiful thought and it is very appropriate, we feel, that such
lighting of candles about the globe may be seen from your satellites, so that all the world has become, in its own
way, a rock concert. We enjoy that image of all of those lighting the flame and this time not for the love of a
good song and a good time, but for the love of the world.
We thank each for this offering of love and for the invitation to join your group. As always, we are most
privileged to be able to do so. We are known to you as those of Q’uo. At this time we shall take our leave of this
instrument and of this group. We leave each, as always, in the love and in the ineffable light of the one infinite
Creator.
Adonai, my friends.
War and Inner Peace
April 6, 2003
Group question: The question today, Q’uo, has to do with what it seems like a lot of people are feeling these
days because the United States is engaged in a very destructive war with Iraq. And it just seems at times that
they’re full of stress. That there is more to do than there is time to do. That a lot of people are feeling sadness,
anger, frustration and doubt and that these things just seem to come bubbling out. We’re wondering if there is a
way of maintaining one’s harmony in such times. If there is a way of dealing with these difficulties that will bring
us back to harmony. We appreciate anything that you might have to say about how we can deal with the difficult
times that are within us and without us.
(Carla channeling)
We are those known to you as Q’uo, and we greet you in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator, in
Whose service we come to you this day. We wish to thank you for the great blessing of your company and the
beauty of your vibrations as you sit in this circle of seeking. We thank you especially for taking the time out of
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that life which, by your question, is represented as being most busy and somewhat difficult. Yet you have found the
time and the place to come together simply to seek the truth. For this we thank you, for it is a great blessing to us
to be able to share our thoughts with you and to be called to your meeting.
We share these thoughts with you with the request that in listening to them each be very discriminating as to those
thoughts which you accept and use as resources. We would not ask that you look upon us as authorities but rather
as those with an opinion which we are glad to share on the basis of our being friends and neighbors with you, not
simply in terms of time and space but in terms of the nature of our beings and the journey which we share. If you
are able to use your discrimination in listening to our thoughts then that will free us to be able to express them
without fear that we would be infringing upon any entity’s free will.
You ask us this day concerning the peace and harmony that is so beloved and so dearly sought among your peoples
and yet are seemingly quite elusive at times for many of your peoples. The description of the times as being
troubled and the self as being troubled seem to be that truth which lies upon the surface of the minds of many of
those present. And certainly it echoes those thoughts which are upon the minds of your people in general, for upon
a global basis the great cry of your planet and its people is for harmony and peace.
This instrument wished to use the term “grass roots,” and we stopped this instrument from using that term to
describe that energy which is bubbling up. For in “grass roots” we would not make the pun without intending to!
And indeed we do wish to say that the energy of harmony and peace is indeed bubbling up out of the grass roots
themselves, out of every seed and every living thing that takes its life from the soil and turns towards the sun in
your second density. The energies which turn towards harmony and peace are those energies which you possess in
each cell of your vehicle upon the physical level and in your finer bodies within the inner levels as well.
There is an instinct within each spark of the Creator’s light for the balancing of the energy to a default setting of
peace and joy. The impulse and energy which nurtures this into manifestation, however, is the impulse not towards
joy or towards peace but that instinct that lies in the direction of single-mindedness or, as the one known as V has
said, the discipline of the personality. So we would take some time to discuss this concept of the default setting of
joy and peace.
It is our bias, as we look upon this circle of entities with their beautiful energy vehicles shimmering, that we see
that view which lies the deepest, most easily, and that portion of you which lies upon the surface, least easily.
Whereas within the physical incarnation such as you now enjoy, unless the vehicle in which you enjoy living has
been born blind or there are other perceptual difficulties of a substantial nature, that which comes easiest to your
senses and to your observational powers is that which is seen, heard, smelled, tasted and felt. The priorities of your
earthly experience, then, focus upon those things about you as an entity which are the least authentic or real. And
yet, it is at the level of these inauthentic and illusory structures, which this instrument calls consensus reality, in
which you spend your days and your working hours. And we do grasp that there is every temptation and every
logical reason for each of you to wander far from the concept of the self as one whose mind is on only one thing
and that is the love of the one infinite Creator. We gaze within this instrument’s mind to find description of this
paradox and find her experience of long and busy and well-crafted days of toil in which many chores of varying
kinds are approached, organized and removed from the list of things to do. This, within this instrument, we find to
be the source of almost no stress, and this is remarkable, for among your people there is the tendency not only to
have too much to do but also to find oneself being concerned about the fact that one has too much to do, this kind
of energy then snowballing upon itself and creating an ever greater sensitivity to one’s lacks and failures to achieve
that which has been expected of one, either by the self or by others. Within this instrument’s mind we also find
constant efforts towards the re-tuning of the mind and it is in this direction that we would like to go in discussing
ways to work with the situation which you now enjoy, which is, basically, a very good environment to observe,
analyze and alter the priorities of thinking which cause your particular mind and attention to focus upon one thing
rather than another of the details of those things which are occurring at any particular moment.
At any particular moment an entity may be experiencing a multitude of catalysts. There are catalysts that come to
the ears, the trains that pass, the telephones that ring. There is catalyst for the eye in the passing view and catalysts
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for all the senses in that which is occurring. There is catalyst for the mind in those thoughts which are sparked by
the sense impressions of the moment. And there are those thoughts involved with the reactions to the original
thoughts that have been thought by the self.
In all of this arrangement, there has been no thought described which has not been caused by the outer
environment impressing itself upon the being. The one known as C was expressing her desire to move beyond
the thoughts of that level, to move into those thoughts which are authentic, original and her own thoughts,
moving from the inside out and not from the outside in. So that there is a feeling of being, shall we say, as the
flower that blooms to meet the wind, rather than as the scrap of tattered rag which the wind blows any way that
it wishes to, for there is no root in the tatter but only material that has been beaten and torn. Each of you feels, at
times, as a tattered rag, as a thing for the wind to make sport of and play with and indeed it often feels as if the
wind of spirit has picked you up and put you down someplace where you would rather not have been placed. To
the mind that is focused upon the love of the one infinite Creator, the view of all that comes through the senses,
the thoughts concerning those sense impressions, and the thoughts judging those thoughts about sense
impressions, are all seen as the bits of froth upon the surface of the waters of life that they are. If the one single
thought that the mind is stayed upon is the love of the infinite One, then it is that the being within has the
opportunity to choose to maintain that focus, not only in those moments of silence but also moments in the
noise of culture, of warfare, of crowded conditions, of distressing amounts of inequality, in a world which yearns
and hungers and demands absolute equality.
In your prophetic literature, in your myths and in your sagas, there is much concern for the transformational
times. Within ancient Roman literature there is Ovid gazing at the metamorphoses of nature and of humankind.
Dry-as-dust historians have gazed at the rise and fall of empires. The energies of spiritual leaders such as Jesus the
Christ have focused upon the transformation of that which is material into that which is spiritual. And this
instrument has followed a long line of studies of various religions and mythologies and philosophical systems in
which this matter of how one helps oneself to transform from the lesser into the more noble aspects of self has
been quite [extensively explored]. The stuff of transformation is the stuff of waking from a sleep. Fortunately we
have that very humble and accessible example of the kind of change that you all face at this time.
It is a time of transformation, perhaps most importantly, for your planet. The very Earth which has bred you and
nurtured you is itself now being born, and this effort and labor go well. Yet there is difficulty. The difficulty is
critical in that if the delivery continues to go poorly there will need to be the equivalent of the Cesarean [birth],
the removing of portions of the skin of the Earth [mother] that the new configuration of the energy-body of the
Earth [child] may have room to be born in its appropriate shape and arrangement of energy nexi.
It is more for the planet than for the people that many of you have chosen to be in incarnation upon the planet
at this time. It was your hope that you would be able, by awakening within the dream of physical life, to become
a magical person, a person able to act as a crystal entity, receiving energy, transmuting energy, and sending
energy out into the fourth-density web of planet Earth.
That which distracts is always a detail; that which calls you back to remembrance is always discipline. Very
seldom does nature so configure experience that it is impossible to miss the spiritual signals. Most usually, the
hints and clues of spirituality are so configured as to be completely able to be missed, able to be glanced over,
able to be prioritized below the threshold of awareness by the affairs and details and chores of the day. Each is
aware of the spiritual figures who have indicated through history that when they are busy then is the time to rise
earlier so that they may pray longer, for it is in the praying that the work gets done rather then in those long
daylight hours of toil. This is a great key for those who have ears to hear. We are not suggesting that entities must
get up early and meditate before they begin the day in order to prepare, but we are suggesting that the mind of
an entity is that which is in an extreme state of vulnerability to the mental conditioning. The power of suggestion
is great. Each entity has seen many examples of such suggestion, the most common perhaps being that when one
entity yawns, those about that entity will quite often catch the yawn and find themselves expressing similarly.
So it is too with the mass media, the television and the newspapers, those agents of consciousness of which J was
speaking, that attempt to create cookies of the right shape out of the dough of entities’ thoughts, so that entities
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bear a remarkable similarity in their opinions upon certain subjects. They have been listening to one source and
in that source lies a structure which seems to explain or justify actions and in the details of these actions there is
no end to the shades of gray, the ethical questions, the causes for sorrow or anger or concern of one kind or
another. Yet the simplicity of the solution is funny. For the solution to the awareness of trouble is in the turning
of the consciousness to the love of the infinite Creator.
We do not intend this as a greatly abstract concept. We intend this in another way and we would ask you to
open yourselves to the concept that you are the peace and harmony that you seek, for you are a spark of the one
great original Thought of the infinite Creator. Say that the Creator, in Its infinity, in Its impossibility of being
described, is a vibration. You have that original vibration, which is unconditional love, as the basis of every cell of
your being. Without that Thought of love nothing has been made that is made. It is not something you possess,
it is your very nature, and it goes far deeper than the marrow of your bones. It is far closer to you than your
breathing. It is far more real than the impressions of sense. For it is that impulse and spark without which you
could not take thought, take breath, or enjoy existence or consciousness. This nature of the principle of Deity is
the heart of you, is the truth of you. You are as the stone within which the perfect sculpture hides. Each detail,
each chore, each duty, each disturbance, each warfare chips away, pounds away, hammers away, rattles away, and
aggravates away bits and pieces of detritus of those things that are not you, gradually beginning to shape that
faceted gem that lies within the details of a busy earthly existence.
How blunt are the instruments of catalyst! And yet how effective. When one begins to become aware of this
process of catalyst and experience, learning and transformation, one begins to be able to pick up some tools to
use that are not as blunt as the blunt instruments of outer experience, things learned the hard way. And once
again, the key in making use of these finer instruments, of removing and distilling from the self those impurities
which one targets and wishes to see fall away, is the will. And each time the will is used to lift the self from that
archipelago of small confusions to a place of spiritual attitude and consciousness where these details are seen as
details like any other, a burden is lifted off of the attention. It is as though blinders are released from the eyes and
for the first time, by asking of yourself this discipline of attention, you may begin to experience the unreasoning
feelings of joy and peace of which this instrument was speaking earlier. For it is our opinion that it is this
instrument’s long years of attempting to be disciplined about returning the mind to the silence from the details
that has gradually enabled this instrument to find a measure of peace that does indeed pass understanding.
The Creator within you, the truth of yourself, is happy to live your life. You have sufficient spiritual impulses
within you to move through your incarnation in a state of true peace and undiluted joy. Yet it is something for
which permission must be given from the self to the Self. One must give oneself permission to be content and
happy and blessed, for these are not things which are in the training which your culture offers its people. It is not
taught among your peoples that happiness is a natural state, but rather that struggling and competition are the
natural state. And each is aware of many ways in which the culture itself offers these lessons to those who are
growing and learning. Always it is the spiritual sense alone that is able to release the conflicts, the struggles with
those things which are the truth of the illusion, in order to turn once again to the stunning mystery of Oneness,
to the love that is all that you see, to the light that has created all that is, without blinking at those things which
seem good and which seem evil. The life that is lived is a work of great subtlety. There is an unlimited potential
for transformation within the physical illusion and the limits are released, one by one, by that entity who is
willing to ask of the self, “Yes, but who am I beneath that detail? Yes, but who am I beneath that action? Who
am I? Whose am I? Why am I here?”
When faced with disharmony it may be a resource for you to think to yourself this thought: “Who am I? In
terms of that situation that is ‘out there,’ what’s the situation [within] me? If I am a creature of love then what
am I doing in this situation?” To look at the situation as you see it and to react from the outside-in is often less
than helpful. To gaze at a situation from the inside-out is to find the love within that particular structure and
then to be the defender, the protector, and the expresser, if need be, of that love. Whatever it is that you gaze
upon, whoever is reaching out to you that asks for a reaction from you, attempt if you can to leave that situation,
that relationship, that moment in a little better order than you found it, with a little more love, a little more
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understanding, a little more of the Creator’s freedom in the atmosphere.
In almost any situation it is easy to lose the tuning of mind which is that tuning of yourself that holds
remembrance that the “I” of you is an “I” that is far more than the personality shell and that self which lives the
surface life. Who is truly living your life? Infinite Consciousness would like to live your life. It is a matter of
getting out of Its way.
Those who remain silent may be those who have the most wisdom. Those voices that speak the loudest in your
society may well be those voices which offer the deepest confusion. Consequently, we encourage your appetite for
the silence. We encourage plunging into that muscular silence that is the speech of the one infinite Creator and
going as deep as you can, for as long as you can, whenever you can. If you only have thirty seconds or two
minutes, or five, you may visit the gateway to intelligent infinity. Take the time whenever you can to release your
energy body from its varied strictures to refresh it, open it up, and when you find yourself in the open heart, we
greatly encourage your sitting there for a while with that one great original Thought that is love itself. Rest in the
love that lies within the heart and know that it is the truth of you, it is your deepest self. And then go forward in
your armor of light, knowing that those things which are of Earthly origin will express as they must and that all
things that live shall die and all that passes from illusion shall once again come into being. Rest in those cycles
that lie beyond sense. Rest in that mystery that lies beyond mind.
In order for personal learning to occur and in order for you to do your service we are always happy to join you in
your meditation in order to deepen that state of meditation that you may enjoy. And there are many entities in
the unseen worlds which are alert to those who seek in various directions. Consequently, it is a matter of
knowing that which you are and that which you believe and then asking for help from those structures within
which you feel comfortable asking. This instrument would call the help angelic. Others would describe various
entities of various levels of the inner planes by various technically more accurate names. Our point is simply that
there is tremendous energetic help for those who have [become] clear as to what it is they seek, who it is that they
are, and why it is that they have chosen life at this time. Move into a feeling of as full an awareness of the self as
can be had. Ask for the help that is there. And then find that courage which releases the self in a state of complete
vulnerability to face the next moment without preconception.
I am Q’uo. We would once again thank each present for inviting us to join you in your circle of seeking. We are
always overjoyed to be able to join this group and we look forward , as you would say, to these gatherings,
though forward is perhaps a misnomer, for we live as one being, at one time, at all times. The illusion which you
now inhabit is one which plays a trick, shall we say, in order that you may do a certain dance, make a certain
choice, give of yourself in love and move one step further in your union with the All.
At this time we shall take our leave of this instrument and this group. We leave each, as always, in the love and in
the light of the one infinite Creator. We are known to you as those of Q’uo.
Adonai, my friends.
Notes To Our Readers
L/L Research will be switching over to an on-line-only newsletter format with this issue. Consequently,

Thursday, August 19, 2004



another winter scene from Cornell. so peacefull.

I am going to think a lot about what i wrote yesterday, here, about "charley, the old folks, the angry retirees, and the psychic fields!

In that senior center that i once worked at, there were a number of these people, people who sometimes call themselves "patiots" [ i cannot even begin to spell this one!]. they wave the flag and thump the bible, but *you* would not want to live in *their* America, sports fans!! I would call these people, some of them..."alqueda/taliban clones". they know what is Right, and eveeeerrrything today is wrong, just ask them and they will tell you in 34,963 words!

or...
"life is a bitch then you die", in those 34,000 words, if they are not a fundamentalist.

there was one man, at the senior center, who was SO angry much of the time, his voice would sound like you put a puppy's paw into a vise and recorded the cries as you crunched the paw to mush by turning the vise handle!
My boss was soon to be promoted, but by then he was also made so 'sickly" by the vibes that he quit first, just as they offered him the premotion.

after i left and about the time he quit, there was a flock of birds that roosted overnight in the huge chimmney and the furnace was turned on and about 5,000 birds
were gassed to death. the next month the new director made a special sign to put in front of the building, lit up at night: it burned to the ground overnight due to a short in the wires!!
then the NEW, new, director had the whole center re-painted and redune and now the vibes are good there!

Only about 20 seniors "did" this, have bad vibes. how about 200,000+ ??!!
200,000 to 300,000 in one area of the country. people holding on to their pains and feelings of "wrongs did to them over their 60+ years of life". not letting go. not forgiving, not Understanding. just Nursing the wrongs, keeeping the whell turning, of menory..."of what so and so did to me"!

Jesus taught of Love. forgiving your enimies. I see, even here, in my city, so many who do not love, do not forgive, unable to try to understand what their lives were all about.
so...some just go down alone, "me against all of them bastards"! stay inside.hold grudges with a red-hot anger, for years and years...

recipie for disaster. gameplan for disaster...

I see, in the tallahassee obituary....that many Go at 35...45...
never too young to forgive and to Love, love your past and forgive those in your past...summerize your life as IF it was utterly heavenly all of that lifetime!!
then...live it!

Wednesday, August 18, 2004

Well this is my last rant about
HURRICANE CHARLEY!

I see it all different now....There is another element to the mystery, an element that
"blows me away", sports fans! The mystery as to why Charlie seemed to focus on a place where...[I read this, this am, in the Democrat]....Where this Charlotte county, Punta Gorda and surrounding areas, has the HIGHEST percentage of seniors in the whole country, *and* the second highest percentage of seniors over 80, [8 percent]!
basically most of the area has zillions of cheap trailers, where the poor retirees go.

the article in the Democrat or the St Pete times, that really got my attention and "clued' me into what might be going on, is this: that the reporter focused on the pains of one retiree who moved there to buy a trailer as he was a ww II vet who has little respect for our currant government and he bought the trailer so to not buy into the great modern tax/gov/inflated modern way of life. [READ: filled with anger, an anger that smolders 24/7, an anger against all the "modern way of life"!
this person might be 99%-right, on the "political right-left-o-meter"!]

I, with my college meteorological trainings, watched how this storm was the "perfect storm" to utterly ruin this area of Florida!

well....
Back in 1998, I worked for the Tallahassee senior center as a janitor. I loved the job for six months. But then my body began to react to 'stuff", stuff that I tried to DENY that was happening to me! Hives, welts....All due to soaking up the
GREAT GREAT ANGER
that many of the clients had! Anger towards 'getting old", yes, but even a greater anger directed against the "modern way of life". That generation of retirees, the pre WW II/Korean war/Great Depression generation, now see the modern age as being against everything that they believe in, and that this currant political age Mucks them over real good!
I had to give up the job; the day I quit, I passed ten bowel movements a day for two weeks, endlessly: symbol of all the crud that I soaked up!
re-Lease!

two events, in my life, illustrate my point.
1...I was invited , around the time of my janitor job, to come out to my good friend's hose for Easter dinner, with his family. When I got there, dinner was still in the oven and he told me to "good idea to take a walk along the path, while awaiting dinner to be cooked, you might meet that Gardner"
I took that walk. I met that gardner, a retiree.
well...Sports fans, I ended up Listening to him monologue for
FOUR HOURS
missed my dinner. He could have put his finger into the electric socket for an hour: his anger could have powered the whole city of Tallahassee for that hour!!
anger?
He was angry that he spent his whole life working from dawn to dusk, from childhood onwards. No one wore shoes in his whole school system, in 1930. Life WAS work. Any dream that he had, was put in a box and boxed up, never to be opened again.
now TODAY, he sees all the kids of today dancing the dances that he could not do when he was young, those dances he placed in the box, he sees them today not working dawn to dusk, NOT paying the dues he did....And the final GALL is that he is
PAYING FOR THEM TO DANCE OUT OF HIS WALLET, due to government taxes, etc,etc!!
[he hates welfare getters with a purple passion!]. He suffered and Paid the Price: they suffer not!

2...I lived in Gainesville, FL...In the 90s. I found the woods to be filled with travel trailers with older men living in them. Many many of them would make a "conservative" seems to be ultra ULTRA liberal, as *these* men were even more rightist than "Nazis"! I knew of a man who *never* went to eat in a restaurant because of AIDS, the workers in the cafes and many of the customers, are Gay and aids infected! I knew another man who really REALLY felt that a woman's place IS in the home, not out in career! "feminists" get a red-hot-needle angertreatment, everytime that in our talks the subject comes up and it came up every day!!

so here is...Sports fans...The STEREOTYPE image! An older man, sitting on his front porch, an American flag prominently displayed. There are about three bumper stickers on his car too, all very *very* "radical right"! His face is firm and square, but filled with an ever present RAGE! Rage against the government, the modern way of life, the "forgetting' of the vets, the taxes, the Leftists, the gays, the internet.
i.e....he hates 90 percent of what *YOU*, reader of this weblog, probably believe in!!

now....
take one million of these people and put them in one geographical spot!
angry "complaining" old ladies, and bitter, 'crochety" old men: concentrate them in about ten counties!

PSYCHIC CRAMP!

the aura of Place is disturbed!

too too many souls with an anger-attitude all living in closeness to each other!
too too much unbalance in the either, above the counties, the aura is not healthy!
thus, in a sense, they INVOKED this storm!
[Jane Roberts---Seth: someone told me that when he went to a meeting and Seth Spoke, he spoked about the great Elmira flood, in 1972, water up to the second story of all the houses. Seth said that the flood was "invoked' by all the residents to try to wash out all of the negative energy there, in that depressed area of the country! This flood, thus, if Seth spoke correctly, was Caused. Caused by collective
unconsciousness, as an attempt to heal the region of "dirt...depressions"! Flood NOT an 'accident' or of the "hand of God", or even of "weather physics"!!

yes, surely one of you readers, sports fans, know of such a person, an older relative perhaps, a neighbor...someone. Someone who is "going down hard" to old age, going down in anger and bitterness, or maybe depression.
the "lone wolf" or "batchelor bull" who calls in to the talk show and VENTS his rage against "everything" that is "political-left" of 99 percent!!
many of these men, if 'religious" would invoke a "sodam and gomorra" CLEANSING"
and
"God's righteous judgement" upon everything of the 1960, and beyond, age!!

sigh....
Imagine a population of 300,000 of these people living in one county.

moral:
1...If you move to a new location, try to assuage and to feel out this new place's
psychic health, before you move there!
2...Keep"Open", do not let yourself become on of the "bitter old men" or "bitter old lady", as you get older!!!

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Tuesday, August 17, 2004

Hurricane Charlie!

I live in northern Florida and the Paper has the stories and the photos.

This storm disturbs me very greatly, sports fans! The "tipping point" of the articles came with this morning's Democrat.

A young lady, very poor, living alone in a trailer, tells how she has $3 in her pocketbook and no credit card. That pocketbook is all she has!! Her trailer is gone and her job is gone. The restaurant that she was a waitress at, is now a couple of sticks poking out of the sea!
[she probably has a life-choice...To either get on the bus and go cold 1000 miles away, and rent a room.
or...Spend every moment of her life helping the 20,000 old ladies Cope. Dawn to dusk, sleeping only in fits and spurts, every second Giving of her time and energy!]

see...This storm took out only the poorest section of Florida: farmers and the retired poor. It did not hit the rich or the "gaudy" tourist areas! It took out the very heart of the "real" Florida and *ONLY* this!!

I can imagine how there are a lot of "anti-well-wishers" for Florida, hoping, in a sense, that the "righteous Retribution" will occur onto the "stupid" condo people, the rich, the tourist trap mentality builders....etc..etc...


now...200,000 retirees own nothing. 100,000+ little old ladies, who need Stability and daily medicine and routine; have none of it! They will need "total care", by everyone, for life!

Most of the farmlands are gone too! Most of this years orange juice crop is gone, be very glad, this fall, that NAFTA IS...And that Brazil will provide your OJ at double the price! Your "down home orange juice from the real Florida", will be provided, this winter, by the World trade people, by the One Global Economy!

yes, as I see it, this storm, by
ANALOGY
was like a tornado that came to a town and took out only the very poor section of town, as well as the "new age whole earth" section of town, and the nearby farms, as well as all of the churches and the schools!
it spared the mansions on the hill, the walmart, the shopping center, and the Gambling hall. It took out the police hall, but left the drug crack house untouched! Too, this "tornado" took out the poor retirees section of town, but left untouched the Upscale preppie/yuppie commuting suburbs! The tornado took out the "real" old section of town, but left the "tourist recreation" of the old town, that is out by the interstate, made just for to take $$$ from the tourists!
----*this* is the flavor that I get from "CHARLIE"!!

ominous!
I do not like what I see coming! More of this, in the years ahead: the poor will lose it all, all over the world, and only the rich and Prepared will survive! Soon, many many of us will own only what is on our backs, having to face that everything that we "own" is only a "loaner" and it must be returned!
what a BLEAK image for the New millennium: a man sitting in front of a refugee tent, wearing Donated clothes five sizes too big, staring off into the distance with all of his past gone. Does not matter what he did, or what skills or memories he has: they will not matter in the years ahead! He will eventually take the very first "job' that is there, and for the rest of his life he never *ever* talks about his past!

like: facing the Tombstone, long long before we each thing that we "are ready"!

Sunday, August 15, 2004

a story.

A man sees a mosquito about to land on his arm, and he lives in a Nile Virus epedemic county.
He has about two choices.

1...immediately swat this mosquito, even though he could make a mistake, like that mosquito is actually an enemy of the species that carries the Virus! Or hurt his arm, in the violence of his quick act! but he Acts!
[reminds me of the tale of St.Peter meeting a man coming to heaven from earth and finding that the man did little good, so he has no chance of heaven. but he did no
evil either: he cannot even go to Hell! thus he remains in a grey Limbo forever...]
far FAR better to make a mistake, than do nothing!!

2...He could get the opinion of all the neighbors who live in his city block first, and even take the mosquito's feelings into account as it truly needs the blood in order to hatch its eggs! then think of 30 ways to try to hit this mosquito, taking advice from one and all, first. This could take hours...days! Maybe the best solution is to just let the mosquito Feed on his blood, after all, doctors need the Income too!

I guess you all know who i am going to vote for, in the presidential election!!!

a story.

A man sees a mosquito about to land on his arm, and he lives in a Nile Virus epedemic county.
He has about two choices.

1...immediately swat this mosquito, even though he could make a mistake, like that mosquito is actually an enemy of the species that carries the Virus! Or hurt his arm, in the violence of his quick act! but he Acts!
[reminds me of the tale of St.Peter meeting a man coming to heaven from earth and finding that the man did little good, so he has no chance of heaven. but he did no
evil either: he cannot even go to Hell! thus he remains in a grey Limbo forever...]
far FAR better to make a mistake, than do nothing!!

2...He could get the opinion of all the neighbors who live in his city block first, and even take the mosquito's feelings into account as it truly needs the blood in order to hatch its eggs! then think of 30 ways to try to hit this mosquito, taking advice from one and all, first. This could take hours...days! Maybe the best solution is to just let the mosquito Feed on his blood, after all, doctors need the Income too!

I guess you all know who i am going to vote for, in the presidential election!!!

I shake my head over that destruction in Punta Gorda, fl, from Charlie hurricane!

---seems to me that this area of florida had the only place where retirees could "find a place of paridise" free of condos and expensive livings, in florida.
Mostly trailers in trailer parks.
10,000-plus trailers, now all ruined. nothing left. no where to go: they will have to rebuild there, and reminded every second that they own, really, nothing! they will be surrounded by ugly devastations for years!

seems to be the Age of the refugee!
only a tent, the clothes on one's back, no History at all, owning nothing from the past.


alone.

---a man or woman, of 70 years of age: no personal momentos, photos, papers, items.
NO PAST! might as well move to Idaho on the Bus, rent a room in the hotel, in a larger town, and then get a job washing dishes at the local cafe, or a clerk somewheres. no friends, no relatives, no past to give a kind of "compass needle direction to a personal North, of meaning". one IS....
"I am", is the only reply to a local person, when asked about "what did you do and where did you live, years ago?"!

Standing at the end of a bridge, after crossing it, then looking back only to see that all of the bridge has fallen into the Revine, except the last end-board that you are standing upon!
The whole of "tomorrow" is before you, but you bring not one thing to it, from behind you!
you can now do anything, or nothing, and what does it matter if you do not fit in, to the future, as you cannot now even judge yourself Lacking, in fitting in to this future; as that "self-judgement" infers...."a personal past"!

a story.

A man sees a mosquito about to land on his arm, and he lives in a Nile Virus epedemic county.
He has about two choices.

1...immediately swat this mosquito, even though he could make a mistake, like that mosquito is actually an enemy of the species that carries the Virus! Or hurt his arm, in the violence of his quick act! but he Acts!
[reminds me of the tale of St.Peter meeting a man coming to heaven from earth and finding that the man did little good, so he has no chance of heaven. but he did no
evil either: he cannot even go to Hell! thus he remains in a grey Limbo forever...]
far FAR better to make a mistake, than do nothing!!

2...He could get the opinion of all the neighbors who live in his city block first, and even take the mosquito's feelings into account as it truly needs the blood in order to hatch its eggs! then think of 30 ways to try to hit this mosquito, taking advice from one and all, first. This could take hours...days! Maybe the best solution is to just let the mosquito Feed on his blood, after all, doctors need the Income too!

I guess you all know who i am going to vote for, in the presidential election!!!

I have a small hobby, one out of many.

this is.....
"why do people dislike the city of Tallahssee, florida?"

Tis one of my favorite cities and i have lived here on and off for over 40 years, but i hear SO many complaints.

---the lady who said [to the Tone of fingernails scraping down a blackboard]
"There is nooooooothing to do here but drink and go to the malls"!
[translation] she was Lonely and wanted a Man to jumpstart her life to Activate her
life!
---that drinker who sat on the bench staring off into space, behind him was the saturday art show and farmer's market, with a small live band and free food giveaways. He might as well as have been sitting on a rock in the Gobi desert!

---that college professor who put down the "rednecks" so unfeelingly. Little does he know that there is one area or 1000 areas of interests that he is an utter Newbie in!!

---that grad school kid who sat at my table in the cafeteria at FSU, and about ten other northerners sat down and they all began to put down the South. one guy actually said...."I hate the south SO much, because of the bias and bigotry here, that if a southerner were to come over to sit down at this table i would immediately get up and leave"!
---In the same cafeteria...a guy ahead of me was so so putdown of the ignorent blacks
who were the servers as they seemed to not wear hairnets as there was always a LOT of curly black hairs on his tray. I looked, at his insistance. yes there *were* a lot! as he walked off in his huff, i noted duly that his hair was black and sort of "afro": it was HIS hair that fell onto the tray!

---a new york city man who really *really* put down tallahassee for being a "hick town"! then he told how he was from new york city.
later in the day i also talked to a man who says that tallahassee is the biggest and best city that he knew for Doing things in....he was from a poor small nearby town!

tallahassee is a mirror, held up to the onlooker: same with all cities and places!

Here I sit with Morrowind on my computer and I have just started my new game.
Lovely with 250 mods.

Hoooooever!
I might only play this game, on my computer, about once or three times per month!
why.....????

Tallahassee Democrat: last week. a christain AM radio station posted a notice in the Democrat, apoligizing for the fact that it will be from 4 to 6 months before they can get back on the air! Lightning goosed all of the stuff, the antanna, the electrical electronics....all of it.
This tallahassee city of 300,000, tis the only city that i have lived in where at least one FM radio station is knocked off the air each and every night: sometimes two or three, down for the Count till the next day.

ZAP!!

the lightning show stalks the evening and the night....flicker flicker goes the lights, even in my Georgia belle apts. Students learn first hand that many parking lots are really Lakes!

ZOT!

anyone who reads this and lives in Florida knows what i am writing about!

WHAM! BOOOOOOM!

this here city has something like 83 thunderstorm days per year: that is DAYS, not number of storms per year! so far, in august, by august 23rd, there has been about 7.50 inches of rain, just a bit under the average for this date, for the month.

KA-POW!

cloud-to-ground, over and over, 100,000+ volts!
I once sat in a bus and watch lightning hit about once per three seconds...for 20 minutes...power transformers turned to putty...power poles splintered into splinters...One "ZOT" every three seconds, in an area about 1000 feet by 1000 feet!

RUMBLE

from now till middle of october, sometimes only until early september...ya need a surge protector for your surge protector!

Oh them pretty thunderheads and the blackness of tropical squalls: no morrowind, much, for a while!! I will Watch The Show!
or...play Bingo with the other seniors on thursday nights, and maybe attend church during their own Services....

freestone

a story.

A man sees a mosquito about to land on his arm, and he lives in a Nile Virus epedemic county.
He has about two choices.

1...immediately swat this mosquito, even though he could make a mistake, like that mosquito is actually an enemy of the species that carries the Virus! Or hurt his arm, in the violence of his quick act! but he Acts!
[reminds me of the tale of St.Peter meeting a man coming to heaven from earth and finding that the man did little good, so he has no chance of heaven. but he did no
evil either: he cannot even go to Hell! thus he remains in a grey Limbo forever...]
far FAR better to make a mistake, than do nothing!!

2...He could get the opinion of all the neighbors who live in his city block first, and even take the mosquito's feelings into account as it truly needs the blood in order to hatch its eggs! then think of 30 ways to try to hit this mosquito, taking advice from one and all, first. This could take hours...days! Maybe the best solution is to just let the mosquito Feed on his blood, after all, doctors need the Income too!

I guess you all know who i am going to vote for, in the presidential election!!!

a story.

A man sees a mosquito about to land on his arm, and he lives in a Nile Virus epedemic county.
He has about two choices.

1...immediately swat this mosquito, even though he could make a mistake, like that mosquito is actually an enemy of the species that carries the Virus! Or hurt his arm, in the violence of his quick act! but he Acts!
[reminds me of the tale of St.Peter meeting a man coming to heaven from earth and finding that the man did little good, so he has no chance of heaven. but he did no
evil either: he cannot even go to Hell! thus he remains in a grey Limbo forever...]
far FAR better to make a mistake, than do nothing!!

2...He could get the opinion of all the neighbors who live in his city block first, and even take the mosquito's feelings into account as it truly needs the blood in order to hatch its eggs! then think of 30 ways to try to hit this mosquito, taking advice from one and all, first. This could take hours...days! Maybe the best solution is to just let the mosquito Feed on his blood, after all, doctors need the Income too!

I guess you all know who i am going to vote for, in the presidential election!!!

a story.

A man sees a mosquito about to land on his arm, and he lives in a Nile Virus epedemic county.
He has about two choices.

1...immediately swat this mosquito, even though he could make a mistake, like that mosquito is actually an enemy of the species that carries the Virus! Or hurt his arm, in the violence of his quick act! but he Acts!
[reminds me of the tale of St.Peter meeting a man coming to heaven from earth and finding that the man did little good, so he has no chance of heaven. but he did no
evil either: he cannot even go to Hell! thus he remains in a grey Limbo forever...]
far FAR better to make a mistake, than do nothing!!

2...He could get the opinion of all the neighbors who live in his city block first, and even take the mosquito's feelings into account as it truly needs the blood in order to hatch its eggs! then think of 30 ways to try to hit this mosquito, taking advice from one and all, first. This could take hours...days! Maybe the best solution is to just let the mosquito Feed on his blood, after all, doctors need the Income too!

I guess you all know who i am going to vote for, in the presidential election!!!

Thursday, August 12, 2004



here is a different reality for ya! A college campus in the midst of winter in the Northlands.
Cornell university, ithaca ny. a rare bit sun, one can see the Lake far below and it is "below" as that railing is about 500 to 600 feet above the lake. the camera is facing the northwest: the lake is to the northwest.
ah...this means that the wind blows 20 to 40 mph all winter long at at about
10 to 30 degrees far.!!
frigid!

Now, in the summertime, this photo looks unreal, as if this place comes from another planet, another reality!!

Wednesday, August 11, 2004

The man on the bus today. And I thought that "little old ladies" ruled "WORRYING"!!
I have listened to him, on and off for 5 years, on the bus.

A tropical storm is in the Gulf and it could strike Tallahassee. Or maybe not.
Not even hurricane force. The bus; him on it, is about 60 to 90 miles from the Gulf.

He began to talk. talk in very worrying tones about how we all should prepare for the storm. Over and over. He talked about how shattered glass cut people and that we all should plywood our windows. About two miles, including stop lights, he was still utterly consumed. Not only in words, but in the *most* whinny tones
of "fear" and "insecurity"

I mentioned, more to the lady sitting near him, than to him, that the greatest damage that this storm will do, is to CONSUME his brain until he believes that the storm has safely passed way way on! He did not even notice what I said.

yes, every thought and emotion, for days, will be of nothing else. He will not even sleep, probably! Churn churn, digging the ole brain synapses channels even the deeper. Building a mighty Muscle for worrying!!

Surely if I talked to him, he would eventually find some "hot button" that he would press, he being a master at this: something that worries me. *then* he could Rapport with another person. He and I would then have a Mighty Worry Cartharsis!
May be the only way that he can have a friend! He may not be "socialible" as most people around him he might see as being "not interested in safety and security".......too too lacadastical!



Life As Armed Fortress Against All outer Adversary.

he might prepare for everything imaginable, but would I want to live like this?
suppose the storm does come and do some damage, and his stance is justified by any member of the red cross??
the Cost is too too much, sports fans, to have a soul-set like of this!!

I feel that while the worrywort is begun by the genes/mother, the Bouncing ball
of worry, once he leaves his childhood: the ball is now in his hands. Here, he is only bouncing it the harder.

thus at 50 years of age [his] worriers are made, as well as born.

Tuesday, August 10, 2004

The man on the bus today. And I thought that "little old ladies" ruled "WORRYING"!!
I have listened to him, on and off for 5 years, on the bus.

A tropical storm is in the Gulf and it could strike Tallahassee. Or maybe not.
Not even hurricane force. The bus; him on it, is about 60 to 90 miles from the Gulf.

He began to talk. talk in very worrying tones about how we all should prepare for the storm. Over and over. He talked about how shattered glass cut people and that we all should plywood our windows. About two miles, including stop lights, he was still utterly consumed. Not only in words, but in the *most* whinny tones
of "fear" and "insecurity"

I mentioned, more to the lady sitting near him, than to him, that the greatest damage that this storm will do, is to CONSUME his brain until he believes that the storm has safely passed way way on! He did not even notice what I said.

yes, every thought and emotion, for days, will be of nothing else. He will not even sleep, probably! Churn churn, digging the ole brain synapses channels even the deeper. Building a mighty Muscle for worrying!!

Surely if I talked to him, he would eventually find some "hot button" that he would press, he being a master at this: something that worries me. *then* he could Rapport with another person. He and I would then have a Mighty Worry Cartharsis!
May be the only way that he can have a friend! He may not be "socialible" as most people around him he might see as being "not interested in safety and security".......too too lacadastical!



Life As Armed Fortress Against All outer Adversary.

he might prepare for everything imaginable, but would I want to live like this?
suppose the storm does come and do some damage, and his stance is justified by any member of the red cross??
the Cost is too too much, sports fans, to have a soul-set like of this!!

I feel that while the worrywort is begun by the genes/mother, the Bouncing ball
of worry, once he leaves his childhood: the ball is now in his hands. Here, he is only bouncing it the harder.

thus at 50 years of age [his] worriers are made, as well as born.

Lets see, it is the 10th of August already! I have not posted very much of late, due to a "mild" pneumonia! It began over a week ago, and off to the veteran's clinic to get "killer" antibiotics. No energy, no real urge to do much, of late.
finally, today, I begin to feel much better. But the blood count is still a bit high. Tomorrow I will go yet again 8again* to the Clinic and this time for a TB test. There is suspicion that I could even have turburculosis!
all this, of course, the visits that I make and *will* make, to the vet clinic eat up my computer time. Every 8 am, but is really 10 am before I can sit down anywheres.
moral: for the older person: life *becomes* "maintenance"!! "maintaining the body" soon takes all one's time and energy.

then there is yet *another* reason why I have not posted so much of late! What personal stuff, in my life, no one really REALLY wants to hear! Most readers are in their 20s...30s..or even earlier, and they are Not Ready To Face Mr Death yet!!

I am 63.

And...yes, most of my relatives lived till they were 70 or 84 or even 98. Why not ME?
because "They" tell me otherwise and I had durned well be ready or else!!
thus I "need" to "journal" this and I may indeed journal little else than of a man who has a year or two to live, as in....
[Doctor to patient] "I am SO sorry Mr Jones, your X-ray is before me and there is a Scardioitix malignancy in your brain; this is the fastest spreading cancer known and it is incurable. You have 9 to 15 months: get ready"!!

lets see...what is the Latest from my dreams...

another "angel" dream, that is new!
[I have now accepted that a group of "lady spirits" are "behind" most of these
"preparational to die" dreams, that I have had over the years. The series began when they told me, in 1998, that I would not die THEN as I had helped my mother so much during her life, that I would have a life-extension for "a little while".

In some dreams I see some of these ladies. They seem to belong to a "association"
of some kind, in heaven. They all look "early middle aged". They all wear
long white dresses [ROBES], and their hair is always white. Curly and white.
I have seen many many pictures of these type of ladies, over the years, in Christian writings and in descriptions of near death experiences, and also in "appearances" into the physical world.

ANGELS


so.what did they, about three weeks ago, tell me this time? It was just one lady speaking and I was *severely* abraded, much like of when I was in 8th grade
and my math fell far FAR short of what Mrs Vandusan, the 8th grade teacher, thought that I was capable of!
She told me that I was "behind" the curriculum curve, in my life's work.
this is what she said....

"Freestone: in your "shortness' of life, you are paying FAR too too much attention to Florida!! You are supposed to, instead, be Remembering and summarizing your life!"

I woke up. I know what this meant. "Florida" is the state that I live in...Tallahassee, FL,USA. It means *anything* that has to do with the outer world!
the weather outside. The palm trees. The new York times and every article in it.
*and*
anything that I think and ruminate ABOUT the above!! [I had, before the dream, often got a bit angry over "politics and issues"] even my inner life, if about the outer world, is NOT what is wanted here.

sigh.
much *much* more of the "hardest line" [Midnight oil] I must take.
I must spend much of my time ruminating about my life. Near as if I just sit in my room all day: it is what the "rocking chair elder person" is "supposed" to do, in his twilight of his years.

I have a friend with five kids and lots of life to live and a Gardejefian/Ouspensky
approach to life and he would perhaps "urge' me to change and to try new things and to get out of the old routines.
aHEM!
I must do 180 degrees from that: stay even MORE routine, fix habits even more, as I use my coffee cup meditations and my walks to ponder of my past! Not to pay attention to the present at all.
My friend may well tell me that my dreams are all my "imagination", that I have many years yet.
aHEM!

If all my angel dreams are "Real", that tombstone is a foot away from my face, on my path of life. gotta git reaaaady!

freestone

Thursday, August 05, 2004

I had a very very strange experience, over the last few days!

I seemed to have "strange subtle health problems" appear about over a week ago! I would get angry easily, and then I had problems with my chest, my energy seemed depleted.
according to a book on "psychic vampires", I browsed at Borders, last week, this is the Classical symptom of "obsession/possession"!

all the old folks at Georgia belle, where I live, and the earthbound souls there?
somehow I did not think so.

Last night I had a more or less waking dream, I was involved with a great revolution where all the anti-government and poor people began to rise up and revolt. The blacks in the inner cities joined up with the rural poor, and finally this spread to the entire world...The 80% who have nothing against the 20% who have some money or homes!
lots of fighting, the us army against 20 million men with guns. Soon renegade Russian states chimed in with 5000 nuclear missiles, and then even new Zealand is not safe to hide out in! The president and his military people had to go into hiding, then they all were killed. All the world's poor now wanted their Due, wanted what
were for so SO long, denied them! So destroy all the top dogs, redraw all of the country boundaries and give new names to....A nuclear ruin with yellow toxic dust only the winner! "nuclear winter" now begins.....

I got up at dawn, I groaned a bit, at all the anger generated just an hour or so before.

SUDDENLY an intuition.
it was that picture of Jesus that I placed over my bead and another copy on my kitchen wall!!!
they "caused" my state of mind and heart!!
influences from then, affecting me!

I printed it out in color, there is a picture of it, further down the weblog, from a website in Brazil. It came from Brazil, a Brazil Spiritist website.
In Brazil, as in Argentina and in most of the rest of south America, the poor
is about everyone and the Barros are vast. All the police are corrupt and 5%
of the people own most of the wealth!
RIPE for a revolution, I guess. Lots and lots of anger....

I was somehow linking to all the followers of this spiritist site, and to all of the people who also have this probably-popular picture of Jesus in their barro shack! Not only to just this spiritist temple, but to many many temples and churches all throughout Brazil!
and...To all their spirits, in the spiritworlds!

I pitched out the photos, I immediately felt better....

I guess I will never place another picture of any religious figure upon my walls.
In my year, ten years, whatever amount of time that I live, I guess that I will focus upon "mind and technology and practical earth matters": stay away from anything new age or religious!!
too too DANGEROUS!

Wednesday, August 04, 2004

http://exodus2006.com/ED_Guide.htm

The End Days Guide

Recent research has revealed evidence in the Bible and other ancient sources that 'The End Days' will begin in the year AD 2006 and last for seven years.

(1) The Book of Daniel

(2) The Bible Code

(3) Revelation

(4) The Book of Enoch

(5) The Great Pyramid

(6) The Mayan Calendar

(7) Plato on the Egyptian knowledge

References and further reading

-------------more info then you might ever EVER want to know, about the Bible
code, the endtimes!!
Naturally.....the beginning of the endtimes is just about today!
The Writer, of this Site, seems to be much *much* more than your "usual religious zealot
waving a Bible at ya to convince you of the end times"!!

Monday, August 02, 2004

I tried to read the magazine "Newsweek", yesterday; it was sitting on a table next to me, at Barnes and nobles coffee shop.

"tried" to read it!
I could *NOT* read it! I could not enter any of the articles, I could not recall anything that I read after putting it down, except a vague feeling similar to when I am walking along a busy street and then a huge semi-truck squeals the breaks and then I look up to see all the cars zooming nearly "in my face"!

In your face.

---that was all that I got from Newsweek: the ads, the graphics, the writing.
like standing in a hall with four people whipping beach towels at your face!
"I", I guess, am not supposed to do anything, with Newsweek, as the mag is now activating me.

the autistic person sitting next to me, told me how he works for the FSU graphics department and they had him draw up a picture of a promo about the fall football season, the drawing/photo is of a football coming at ya in your face, from maybe a few feet away, at "full pass speed"!

I guess, now, the media HAS to be like this as we are to be passive and the media active, thus influenced by the ads: keep the economy humming and people employed!

but I might never willingly open this mag ever again!
tis a small "tipping point" for me, I am now too too "old" for the modern media.
I am old fashioned, I want to take an active part in my reading of an article!!

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