Wednesday, October 19, 2005

hi all....

I have a wonderful aunt in upstate new york, my father's sister. she
is a very very devout Christian and she is the choir director and organist at her small town church. She had maybe 8 children, now she has over 25 grandkids, and she is 80 years old and she does more in one day, everyday, than maybe someone might do in a week!
She only really gets angry when the word "abortion' is mentioned.

However, she has a secret bookshelf where she keeps books by Carl Jung, as she does not want her fundamentalist kids to find them!

I got a letter from her yesterday, where she wrote how she was listening to Paul harvey, and Paul harvey was telling about the
"Black Hole that will soon eat up the solar system"
[debunked at
http://forum.prophecies.us/viewtopic.php?t=12073&highlight=black+hole
here on the foums!]
...but this, to her, half believible story got her to thinking about the End Times, ala the christian version of the fundamentalists, which, of course is outlined in the Bible, and known to all.

her "Take" on it, surprised me greatly! SO greatly, in fact, that i will post her version here, with my comments, as I she that she is

RIGHT!!

she says that [at the black hole event: but *any* mass-death event will Do, fill in the Blank with your favorite mass death thing, like of 30 volcanoes going off at once or an astroid or Bird Flu, where one stranger coughing in your face will mean a 95% chance of Death in three days!]

she says that at the event of ........ a very great number of people will die at once.
[ Since they will have "died before their times", they will have no preparations for this, thus they all will "wake up" on some bleak astral plain, in the lower astral heavens, on the first level up from the earth.]
As these people, thousands and thousands awake, scattered all over this dim lighted place, suddenly Jesus appears in the sky with the trumpets sounding and the angels all around Him.
[the Dead are resurrected!]
At that moment, when jesus appears, he takes his saved souls up one level to the SECOND heaven, and this is the RAPTURE!
There, in this second heaven, Jesus will enable that 1000 years [one age]
of Spiritual laws, His laws, for the souls. [this is why there will be no sickness there as there are no microbes there in heaven!]
My aunt says nothing about the forst astral level souls who are Left Behind and cannot be raptured, maybe they live there or eventually reincarnate back to the earth, after 2013 or so...

Thus i am somewhat surprised, here is a idea put forth by her that is as "new age" as they come and i agree with her 100%!

In fact, at the "new" rural church a couple of miles away, there is a painting on the wall, in the small office.
This church is a Jehovah's Witness church, and they built it all by volenteer work, by all of the members, and they bought a square of land from my father, it sits about 200 feet from my childhood home!
While my aunt never ever been in it, i sometimes was visiting it, thus i saw the painting, a painting of the Restored Eden, which is the earth after Jesus comes again, an earth that will be made up utterly of God's laws and there will be no more aging or sickness, and that Jesus will now rule everything.
[Jehovah's witness people believe that their members will live, after death, in a literal re-created earth, where heaven WILL be the earth restored. They also belive that their original members, the 144,000 are already in the higher heavens, and that no more will come there, thus Jesus restores the earth for *them*!

so so many people put down the Jehovah's witness beliefs, call them a "cult", but they have, to me, the MOST Lucid view of the afterlife, of any of the Established churches! Just substitute the 'earth", for the 'second heaven", above, this is why there will be no more sickness and aging and Jesus laws, of course. the 144,000 live on the THIRD heaven where Jesus lives, the celestial.

*this* is why the Fundamentalists "end times/afterlife" stuff is so "tricky", as most people cannot imagine how we could live, biologically, without germs existing, on some Jehovah's Witness "earth"; scienticifly impossible!

Of course!

All of these Book of revelational events are to occur in the Spirit worlds!
It is hard for the average person to comprehend such worlds, thus the popular images have to be "literal"!

Thus, you *will*, some day, in some manner, Confront the second coming, in some form, as you will DIE some day, this is why that Message
keeps being hurled from the pulpits, and very very few Listen!

Thus if some "super-event" would occur, where 50,000 or 5,000,000 were to die in a day, then Spirit would have this "second coming"
Plan in place for these victums. This plan could be used over and over again, of course, for each Super-event, it might even have been used
a number of times already!! Only the "local Gods" would appear, maybe, instead of jesus!
the Tsumumi wave in Sumatra!
the Pakistan earthquake.
Katrina!
---all of these killed many many people all at once.

maybe my other post
http://forum.prophecies.us/viewtopic.php?t=13124
the SHOUT dream: Jesus will be seen on earth!
"someone near me, in nearly the same excitment, says something like.........

"Jesus Christ has appeared on the earthplane, in some manner!! He is there for all to see"!! "

Is where the victums of Pakistan or katrina were lifted to this second astral heaven, then Jesus appears to all of them, then some, or many of them are Lifted, Raptured, to the second heaven where a permanent Home has been prepared for them, where spiritual laws are the only reality, as this level is far enogh up from the earth so that all of the earth
ways of Laws do not hold.

--Tis wonderful to know that there is a Plan in Place, for such disasters,whether they be rather small, or Huge!

freestone