Tuesday, August 31, 2004

well after i posted, just now, my article about the bumper sticker...."GET THOSE CHRISTMAS CAROLS OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS, i read *this*, below, in the new york times.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/04/nyregion/04communion.html



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October 4, 2004
Communion and Illness in Conflict
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

RIELLE, N.J. - Haley Waldman, 8 years old, with stringy brown hair and a sensitive stomach, comes from a Roman Catholic family, and her mother is on a quest for her to take holy communion the same way as any other Catholic girl.

But Haley cannot eat wheat. She suffers from celiac disease, an obscure but increasingly diagnosed condition that strikes the small intestine, and even the trace amount of wheat in the communion wafer, or host, can make her ill.

So she and her mother, who live in Brielle, on the Jersey Shore about 60 miles south of Manhattan, are asking the Catholic Church to make an exception. They want a wafer without wheat. They even tracked down a Seattle company that bakes special wheat-free communion wafers that several other Christian denominations, like Methodists and Episcopalians, allow.

Haley's quest has reached all the way up to the Vatican, reverberating in parishes, on talk radio and in newspaper columns, and rallying various groups of celiac sufferers to the third grader's side.

But so far, the church isn't budging.

"Bread, to be valid matter for the eucharist, must be made solely of wheat," said a statement issued by their diocese on behalf of the Catholic Church. "This is not an issue to be determined at the diocesan or parish level, but has already been decided for the Roman Catholic Church throughout the world by Vatican authority."

But Haley and her mother are not backing down, even though they have lost the first couple of rounds of this fight. Last winter, when Haley and her mother first asked for a wheat-free wafer, church officials handed down a strict communion commandment: Thou shall not eat rice. Or soy.

Then, in May, when Haley's family found a New Jersey priest who offered to surreptitiously slip her a soy wafer at the altar, the Bishop of Trenton found out and invalidated her communion, saying that only wheat wafers are holy.

"I don't want to bash the church," said Haley's mother, Elizabeth Pelly-Waldman. "But Christ would not have turned away my child for a medical condition."

Ms. Pelly-Waldman, 30, a mother of four who is in the middle of a divorce, has been writing letters to the Vatican, marching in walks and waging a publicity war from a small, tidy house where flourless peanut butter cookies sit in the fridge and wheat-free pretzels on the counter.

"Who am I to take on 2,000 years of history?" she asks.



Celiac, a genetic disease, affects 1 in 133 people, including many who are never get tested and fail to make the connection between intense stomach pain and eating gluten, an elastic protein in wheat and other grains.

In New Jersey, where about 35 percent of the population is Catholic, some question the Vatican's stance at a time of hemorrhaging church membership and priest abuse scandals.

"Jesus was compassionate," said the Rev. Kenneth Lasch, a retired priest from Mendham. "Why can't they be?"

Others line up behind tradition.

"The rules are the rules," said Msgr. Christopher C. DiLella, of Madison. "And they're coming from Rome."



[I belive this is the defeinition of "Facicism/Nazi-ism", where the State is greater than the individual, and that one must submit always to the State.!!]



"We've never made any exceptions on this because we have to safeguard the sacraments," said a priest who works with the Congregation for Divine Worship, a Vatican committee overseeing Catholic practices, and who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "I get the sense this mother is a little bit stubborn."

And she may be. The church offered Haley a low-gluten wafer, but her mother rejected it, based on the advice of several doctors, including a gastroenterologist at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. They said any amount of gluten could be harmful.

The Vatican has said that those who cannot eat wheat can skip the wafer and drink the consecrated communion wine, another way to partake in the ritual. But Haley's mother still said no.

"It's not appropriate for children to drink alcohol," she said. "Even a sip."

Haley's father, Jason Waldman, a bartender and sometimes construction worker who is not Catholic, thinks the church is being rigid. At the same time, he said his wife may be carrying this a bit far.




According to Catholic Canon 924, "The most sacred eucharistic sacrifice must be celebrated with bread and wine." It also states, "The bread must be made of wheat alone." This comes from the Catholic belief that Christ ate unleavened wheat bread at the Last Supper and handed out pieces to his disciples, saying, "This is my body."

But nowhere in the Bible is wheat bread specified. Some people even think the Last Supper bread was made from barley.

"Theologically, there's no reason why Catholics have to have a wheat wafer," said Mahlon H. Smith, a Methodist minister and religion professor at Rutgers University. "I don't know why they're insisting on this."

Catholic scholars concede the wheat-only rule comes from tradition - just like many other rituals in Catholicism. And Vatican officials say they confronted the wheat issue before. Years ago, Filipino Catholics asked the church if they could bake communion wafers from rice, much easier to grow in the tropics. The Vatican said no. Vatican officials also said that the communion ritual is so central to Catholicism that men who cannot eat wheat hosts wafers should not become priests. Some Catholics have left the church over this. In one well-documented case, a Boston family quit their congregation and joined a Methodist church after their daughter, a celiac patient, was denied a wheat-free host. Annette Bentley, president of the American Celiac Society, published a study on celiac disease and religious rites in 1988 in The Journal of General Psychology. She found that many people with celiac disease who received communion were pocketing the wafers or discretely spitting them out.



Ms. Pelly-Waldman shared her frustrations with the news media, and after articles about Haley came out, several priests contacted the family, offering to perform her communion with a wheat-free host.

The family ended up going to a Catholic priest "just down the road," Mr. Waldman said. They agreed to keep his identity a secret. But Ms. Pelly-Waldman invited a local newspaper reporter to attend the Mass at which Haley received communion, and after the reporter wrote about the service, Bishop John M. Smith of the Diocese of Trenton issued a statement saying Haley's communion was invalid.

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go get a bumper sticker NOW to get these xmas carols out of our schools.

and

vote for Kerry!!
well after i posted, just now, my article about the bumper sticker...."GET THOSE CHRISTMAS CAROLS OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS, i read *this*, below, in the new york times.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/04/nyregion/04communion.html



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

October 4, 2004
Communion and Illness in Conflict
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

RIELLE, N.J. - Haley Waldman, 8 years old, with stringy brown hair and a sensitive stomach, comes from a Roman Catholic family, and her mother is on a quest for her to take holy communion the same way as any other Catholic girl.

But Haley cannot eat wheat. She suffers from celiac disease, an obscure but increasingly diagnosed condition that strikes the small intestine, and even the trace amount of wheat in the communion wafer, or host, can make her ill.

So she and her mother, who live in Brielle, on the Jersey Shore about 60 miles south of Manhattan, are asking the Catholic Church to make an exception. They want a wafer without wheat. They even tracked down a Seattle company that bakes special wheat-free communion wafers that several other Christian denominations, like Methodists and Episcopalians, allow.

Haley's quest has reached all the way up to the Vatican, reverberating in parishes, on talk radio and in newspaper columns, and rallying various groups of celiac sufferers to the third grader's side.

But so far, the church isn't budging.

"Bread, to be valid matter for the eucharist, must be made solely of wheat," said a statement issued by their diocese on behalf of the Catholic Church. "This is not an issue to be determined at the diocesan or parish level, but has already been decided for the Roman Catholic Church throughout the world by Vatican authority."

But Haley and her mother are not backing down, even though they have lost the first couple of rounds of this fight. Last winter, when Haley and her mother first asked for a wheat-free wafer, church officials handed down a strict communion commandment: Thou shall not eat rice. Or soy.

Then, in May, when Haley's family found a New Jersey priest who offered to surreptitiously slip her a soy wafer at the altar, the Bishop of Trenton found out and invalidated her communion, saying that only wheat wafers are holy.

"I don't want to bash the church," said Haley's mother, Elizabeth Pelly-Waldman. "But Christ would not have turned away my child for a medical condition."

Ms. Pelly-Waldman, 30, a mother of four who is in the middle of a divorce, has been writing letters to the Vatican, marching in walks and waging a publicity war from a small, tidy house where flourless peanut butter cookies sit in the fridge and wheat-free pretzels on the counter.

"Who am I to take on 2,000 years of history?" she asks.



Celiac, a genetic disease, affects 1 in 133 people, including many who are never get tested and fail to make the connection between intense stomach pain and eating gluten, an elastic protein in wheat and other grains.

In New Jersey, where about 35 percent of the population is Catholic, some question the Vatican's stance at a time of hemorrhaging church membership and priest abuse scandals.

"Jesus was compassionate," said the Rev. Kenneth Lasch, a retired priest from Mendham. "Why can't they be?"

Others line up behind tradition.

"The rules are the rules," said Msgr. Christopher C. DiLella, of Madison. "And they're coming from Rome."



[I belive this is the defeinition of "Facicism/Nazi-ism", where the State is greater than the individual, and that one must submit always to the State.!!]



"We've never made any exceptions on this because we have to safeguard the sacraments," said a priest who works with the Congregation for Divine Worship, a Vatican committee overseeing Catholic practices, and who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "I get the sense this mother is a little bit stubborn."

And she may be. The church offered Haley a low-gluten wafer, but her mother rejected it, based on the advice of several doctors, including a gastroenterologist at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. They said any amount of gluten could be harmful.

The Vatican has said that those who cannot eat wheat can skip the wafer and drink the consecrated communion wine, another way to partake in the ritual. But Haley's mother still said no.

"It's not appropriate for children to drink alcohol," she said. "Even a sip."

Haley's father, Jason Waldman, a bartender and sometimes construction worker who is not Catholic, thinks the church is being rigid. At the same time, he said his wife may be carrying this a bit far.




According to Catholic Canon 924, "The most sacred eucharistic sacrifice must be celebrated with bread and wine." It also states, "The bread must be made of wheat alone." This comes from the Catholic belief that Christ ate unleavened wheat bread at the Last Supper and handed out pieces to his disciples, saying, "This is my body."

But nowhere in the Bible is wheat bread specified. Some people even think the Last Supper bread was made from barley.

"Theologically, there's no reason why Catholics have to have a wheat wafer," said Mahlon H. Smith, a Methodist minister and religion professor at Rutgers University. "I don't know why they're insisting on this."

Catholic scholars concede the wheat-only rule comes from tradition - just like many other rituals in Catholicism. And Vatican officials say they confronted the wheat issue before. Years ago, Filipino Catholics asked the church if they could bake communion wafers from rice, much easier to grow in the tropics. The Vatican said no. Vatican officials also said that the communion ritual is so central to Catholicism that men who cannot eat wheat hosts wafers should not become priests. Some Catholics have left the church over this. In one well-documented case, a Boston family quit their congregation and joined a Methodist church after their daughter, a celiac patient, was denied a wheat-free host. Annette Bentley, president of the American Celiac Society, published a study on celiac disease and religious rites in 1988 in The Journal of General Psychology. She found that many people with celiac disease who received communion were pocketing the wafers or discretely spitting them out.



Ms. Pelly-Waldman shared her frustrations with the news media, and after articles about Haley came out, several priests contacted the family, offering to perform her communion with a wheat-free host.

The family ended up going to a Catholic priest "just down the road," Mr. Waldman said. They agreed to keep his identity a secret. But Ms. Pelly-Waldman invited a local newspaper reporter to attend the Mass at which Haley received communion, and after the reporter wrote about the service, Bishop John M. Smith of the Diocese of Trenton issued a statement saying Haley's communion was invalid.

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go get a bumper sticker NOW to get these xmas carols out of our schools.

and

vote for Kerry!!
KERRY.
once more, and i am NOT gonna bash him this time!!

I had a long talk with an old friend of 30 years, today, at the coffee shop, followed by a mile long walk home, to ponder our talk!

I found his "take" on Kerry to be much much more than interesting, sports fans.

what he said, he being an Astrologer, was that Kerry bears the traits of his sign
sagittarius....pushy, outgoing and "not nice", he thinks a lot and is a profund thinker and thinkers are NOT too acceptable to the american president as the People seem to want warm fuzzy feel-good presidents! [read: not challanging or threatening!] he thought that maybe a thinking president might be just what we need.
he says that thinking people, of the tall thin body-build, tend not to be "social" and warm and friendly!

He has, i see now, much more than a Point, my friend's talk!

I am being to think, as i walked that mile, that what this country NEEDS is someone
who is just what kerry is like!
that we all should accept what the music of this age is trying to tell us: the rap music, the Hip-Hop music, the 3,047 issues need to be addressed NOW and that there is so much anger in all of us that we need an "angry" president!!
anger about the War...about the Erosion of the middle class...etc..etc...

the Arrogance is what might be needed to make social change, like of Kennedy!

the "darkness' is what is needed to pitch out the remmants of the "Moral majority" ways of morals and thinkings! [probably there are many MORE catholic priests who sex kids: get them out now....]
even maybe that anti-christmas carol bumper sticker, that i wrote of, in my last post, might have Merit, as nowadays half the people in the country are NOT christians!! deeeeply offensive to Jews...muslums...etc, a xmas carol is!!

so i might vote for Kerry after all: what this country needs is a stiff dose of
sulpheric acid thinkings, done by a thinking man.

Bush is a cancer sun sign, the traits of non-verbalness and trusting his advisors
get him into trouble! not a sign for decisive thinkings!

so it might come to this: until the issues raised in Hip-hop/rap are addressed, Kerry
might be the man, one's feelings be Dammed!! my own feelings will not count, as what might be good for the country might be "darkness...anger...arrogance", not what i feel!!

there is a saying that i heard once:
"most social activists are not warm and friendly, you would not want to invite them for dinner for a chat. they tend to be forthright and abrasive and are out to get you to Come Around to sanity, in spite of your fixatations upon something "old"!
they want you to change, niceness is not their way!"
we all would be living yet in the stone age, maybe, if it were not for these people!!

so i do not count, here, in my perceptions of kerry. I probably will now vote for him....
KERRY.
once more, and i am NOT gonna bash him this time!!

I had a long talk with an old friend of 30 years, today, at the coffee shop, followed by a mile long walk home, to ponder our talk!

I found his "take" on Kerry to be much much more than interesting, sports fans.

what he said, he being an Astrologer, was that Kerry bears the traits of his sign
sagittarius....pushy, outgoing and "not nice", he thinks a lot and is a profund thinker and thinkers are NOT too acceptable to the american president as the People seem to want warm fuzzy feel-good presidents! [read: not challanging or threatening!] he thought that maybe a thinking president might be just what we need.
he says that thinking people, of the tall thin body-build, tend not to be "social" and warm and friendly!

He has, i see now, much more than a Point, my friend's talk!

I am being to think, as i walked that mile, that what this country NEEDS is someone
who is just what kerry is like!
that we all should accept what the music of this age is trying to tell us: the rap music, the Hip-Hop music, the 3,047 issues need to be addressed NOW and that there is so much anger in all of us that we need an "angry" president!!
anger about the War...about the Erosion of the middle class...etc..etc...

the Arrogance is what might be needed to make social change, like of Kennedy!

the "darkness' is what is needed to pitch out the remmants of the "Moral majority" ways of morals and thinkings! [probably there are many MORE catholic priests who sex kids: get them out now....]
even maybe that anti-christmas carol bumper sticker, that i wrote of, in my last post, might have Merit, as nowadays half the people in the country are NOT christians!! deeeeply offensive to Jews...muslums...etc, a xmas carol is!!

so i might vote for Kerry after all: what this country needs is a stiff dose of
sulpheric acid thinkings, done by a thinking man.

Bush is a cancer sun sign, the traits of non-verbalness and trusting his advisors
get him into trouble! not a sign for decisive thinkings!

so it might come to this: until the issues raised in Hip-hop/rap are addressed, Kerry
might be the man, one's feelings be Dammed!! my own feelings will not count, as what might be good for the country might be "darkness...anger...arrogance", not what i feel!!

there is a saying that i heard once:
"most social activists are not warm and friendly, you would not want to invite them for dinner for a chat. they tend to be forthright and abrasive and are out to get you to Come Around to sanity, in spite of your fixatations upon something "old"!
they want you to change, niceness is not their way!"
we all would be living yet in the stone age, maybe, if it were not for these people!!

so i do not count, here, in my perceptions of kerry. I probably will now vote for him....
VERY interesting lucid astral travel dream last night.

very very strange too! I found myself flying into a room, in the PAST, sometime in what appears to be around 1800 to 1880, or so. There was a man in the room, i recognized his name, a name that stands tall in the philosophy-writing world, i cannot now recall it!! we talked about his life, he was still a young man.
about what??? i do not know. seemed very real, as if i had traveled into the past.
traveled to meet him in a astral replica of his room, probably.

then i left, then i flew astrally in the open air, i could see the contyside below me change as i stood still, 300 feet off of the ground, as if i was traveling in TIME, not in space! then i came to a open square where there was a wagon-thing on the ground where people were jumping off of. this place seemed to be ""now" in time, or perhaps around the time of my birth, 1941. I fell onto this wagon, then slid off onto the ground. i then purposely placed my hand upon the ground. I tried to get away from this wagon, but my hand was caught in it somehow, then i woke up!

interpetation: I went into the astral past and when i came back to my body, in the "now", i was shown that i cannot leave the earth just yet, will not DIE, will not be permitted to die at the time that i was suspecting of!!!
[this late year or early next!]

interesting....."quirky body" or not, i may indeed be here for awhile...

lots of prayer, meditation, today!

seemed that i was supposed to have died, back in late 1998, but that because i had "helped" a group of souls, i have to be here on the earth for them, for a while.

If i am right, i will be here for years yet!!

whew!!
VERY interesting lucid astral travel dream last night.

very very strange too! I found myself flying into a room, in the PAST, sometime in what appears to be around 1800 to 1880, or so. There was a man in the room, i recognized his name, a name that stands tall in the philosophy-writing world, i cannot now recall it!! we talked about his life, he was still a young man.
about what??? i do not know. seemed very real, as if i had traveled into the past.
traveled to meet him in a astral replica of his room, probably.

then i left, then i flew astrally in the open air, i could see the contyside below me change as i stood still, 300 feet off of the ground, as if i was traveling in TIME, not in space! then i came to a open square where there was a wagon-thing on the ground where people were jumping off of. this place seemed to be ""now" in time, or perhaps around the time of my birth, 1941. I fell onto this wagon, then slid off onto the ground. i then purposely placed my hand upon the ground. I tried to get away from this wagon, but my hand was caught in it somehow, then i woke up!

interpetation: I went into the astral past and when i came back to my body, in the "now", i was shown that i cannot leave the earth just yet, will not DIE, will not be permitted to die at the time that i was suspecting of!!!
[this late year or early next!]

interesting....."quirky body" or not, i may indeed be here for awhile...

lots of prayer, meditation, today!

seemed that i was supposed to have died, back in late 1998, but that because i had "helped" a group of souls, i have to be here on the earth for them, for a while.

If i am right, i will be here for years yet!!

whew!!
VERY interesting lucid astral travel dream last night.

very very strange too! I found myself flying into a room, in the PAST, sometime in what appears to be around 1800 to 1880, or so. There was a man in the room, i recognized his name, a name that stands tall in the philosophy-writing world, i cannot now recall it!! we talked about his life, he was still a young man.
about what??? i do not know. seemed very real, as if i had traveled into the past.
traveled to meet him in a astral replica of his room, probably.

then i left, then i flew astrally in the open air, i could see the contyside below me change as i stood still, 300 feet off of the ground, as if i was traveling in TIME, not in space! then i came to a open square where there was a wagon-thing on the ground where people were jumping off of. this place seemed to be ""now" in time, or perhaps around the time of my birth, 1941. I fell onto this wagon, then slid off onto the ground. i then purposely placed my hand upon the ground. I tried to get away from this wagon, but my hand was caught in it somehow, then i woke up!

interpetation: I went into the astral past and when i came back to my body, in the "now", i was shown that i cannot leave the earth just yet, will not DIE, will not be permitted to die at the time that i was suspecting of!!!
[this late year or early next!]

interesting....."quirky body" or not, i may indeed be here for awhile...

lots of prayer, meditation, today!

seemed that i was supposed to have died, back in late 1998, but that because i had "helped" a group of souls, i have to be here on the earth for them, for a while.

If i am right, i will be here for years yet!!

whew!!
VERY interesting lucid astral travel dream last night.

very very strange too! I found myself flying into a room, in the PAST, sometime in what appears to be around 1800 to 1880, or so. There was a man in the room, i recognized his name, a name that stands tall in the philosophy-writing world, i cannot now recall it!! we talked about his life, he was still a young man.
about what??? i do not know. seemed very real, as if i had traveled into the past.
traveled to meet him in a astral replica of his room, probably.

then i left, then i flew astrally in the open air, i could see the contyside below me change as i stood still, 300 feet off of the ground, as if i was traveling in TIME, not in space! then i came to a open square where there was a wagon-thing on the ground where people were jumping off of. this place seemed to be ""now" in time, or perhaps around the time of my birth, 1941. I fell onto this wagon, then slid off onto the ground. i then purposely placed my hand upon the ground. I tried to get away from this wagon, but my hand was caught in it somehow, then i woke up!

interpetation: I went into the astral past and when i came back to my body, in the "now", i was shown that i cannot leave the earth just yet, will not DIE, will not be permitted to die at the time that i was suspecting of!!!
[this late year or early next!]

interesting....."quirky body" or not, i may indeed be here for awhile...

lots of prayer, meditation, today!

seemed that i was supposed to have died, back in late 1998, but that because i had "helped" a group of souls, i have to be here on the earth for them, for a while.

If i am right, i will be here for years yet!!

whew!!
IVAN.

I saw a weather channel weather discussion, today, at about 5 pm, that blew me away!

gotta be the *most* unuaual weather map that i have ever ever saw, in the last 40 years!!

Ivan!
it went. it moved, it died, off of the shores of the carolinas, moving northeastwards. just a mass of showers, slowly rotating.
it went east, then it moved south, then it moved WEST!!!
so there it sits.
40 miles east of
FORT LAUDERDALE, fla! moving west. wind speed of maybe 20 mph, not even tropical depression strength. moving west.
Ivan is still with us and it is about to "hit" florida...there are now heavy showers
all through the south part of the state.

no winds, but it IS Ivan!

they say it will go out into the Gulf of mexico. maybe get stronger. then it will have to have a Name. "Ivan" of course. suppose it then moves north towards the area of west florida and Alabama!
wince!
if only 60 mph, still it has to be Named, oh what stresssss for all the people there.
Another trip through the mountains??

????

gotta be the strangest map. the strangest season too.
is Gene moving northeast?
well....yeas it is, but they expect it to turn south, then turn west, make a LOOP, maybe or maybe not.

better not have any stock in insurance companies unless the stock is held SHORT.......this year!
marina@sonic.net>, "CARD"

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.
however.....
I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas. About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too! *then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!
the year 2000. or 2001.
we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!we made it!! we made it to the next age.
NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!
I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachyas every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege willbe the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!
"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!
First this will occur politically and socially. Occur with Mankind. then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!
I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.
yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!or....move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!
or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.
soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!
Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth'spsychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!
so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home![notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]Old Souls Going Home.maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...Omenious!!Rapture in slow motion!
soenjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
marina@sonic.net>, "CARD"


I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.
however.....
I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!
the year 2000. or 2001.
we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.
NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!
I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!
"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!
First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!
I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.
yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!
or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.
soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!
Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!
so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!
so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
marina@sonic.net>, "CARD"


I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.
however.....
I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!
the year 2000. or 2001.
we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.
NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!
I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!
"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!
First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!
I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.
yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!
or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.
soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!
Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!
so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!
so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....

I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.
however.....
I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!
the year 2000. or 2001.
we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.
NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!
I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!
"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!
First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!
I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.
yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!
or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.
soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!
Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!
so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!
so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
I am slowly getting a very disquieting feeling about the immediate future! Maybe it is because i live in Florida and the next hurricane everyone is concerned about.

however.....

I remember a story. A story of a man who was to turn 80 just before Christmas. He was in uncertain health; his relatives wondered if he were to soon die of old age.
Well....he made it through his birthday and then he made it through xmas. there were many reuinions and celebrations over his age. Then xmas.
About a month after the new year, his health quickly went downhill, and in a few weeks he died. On his deathbed, he told a few close relatives that he really REALLY wanted to see his 80th birthday out, and then Christmas too!
*then* and only THEN, could he now die, as all his life had succeded, he wanted to see his sons for the last time, and his 80th year too: a good "score line", xmas and 80, to die in!

the year 2000. or 2001.

we all made it! the new age has begun and we all earnestly awaited it with baited breath, watching the nuclear clock sometimes tick close to Armegeddion!
we made it!! we made it to the next age.

NOW we all can unwind and come apart!! now the end times can begin! we maaaaaade it!!

I read, in today's New York Times, about how some people think that someone should cut a deal with ben Laben over Checkna, in Russia! give to ben laben, and the alqueada, some concessions to stop the Attacks. maybe let Checkna be a free state.
oh boy!! if this occurs, we all will "power-dive" into Chaos and arnachy
as every provence in russia will have to right to be free. "terrorism Works, and the more barbaric the attacks are, the better it works"----*this* messege will
be the only real messege, for this age to come, if this is done!!

"the Unravelings will begin". that is my suspician. takes about three to seven years for the Collective Uncounscious to have it become aware that 2000 AD has occured, and now it Is The Time To Come Apart!

First this will occur politically and socially.
Occur with Mankind.
then as all of mankind comes apart, as Daniel Logan says in "reluctant prophet", his Guide says that "japan's collective old souls have psychicly-keneticly held together the Island of japan: the island is so unstable, geologically, that all of the volcanoes should have gone off long ago! but...now that japan's people have become so spiritually materialistic, this collective grace-force is wearing thin! if this continues, more volcanoes and earthquakes will strike japan! [written about 20 years ago!]"
thus....as the collective unravels, the "holding force" loosens, and there will be ever ever EVER the more natural disasters, from within the earth, on the earth, and from outer space!!

I, myself, am beginning to have that same feeling that i had, back in the early summer of 2001, culminating in the "9/11"!! a vague sense of Unease.

yes, one could move to Ahsley[sp], north dakota, where the ny times last year had an article about where the taxes on a $40,000 house is $50 per year and a four bedroom apt rents for $200 a month and many houses sell for $30,000, or LESS!!
70% of the people in this county seat are over 80 years old! no young people left anymore! on a good day, in January, the temperature might reach 10 above, farenhieght!
or....
move to the applilachian mountains only to find that 59,702 other people had the same idea, for the same valley, to move to!

or better yet: find your spiritual Center, Get Right with your Soul and with God!
Make peace with yourself and forgive your people who do not like you.

soon, many many people could be living in a refugee camp tent, or moving "cold" to a motel room in a strange city where the only person you know is the motel clerk!

Every single "atrocity" is another iron beam that is laid upon the "camel's back"
of our civilization, and of the civilization's Stewardship of the earth's
psychic Aura field! I feel that there is a direct link between ever increasing storms and our collective psychic health: soon the psysical earth will Respond with earthquakes and volcanoes. Astriods could Move in their Orbits, in Response!!
Lesson: everything is connected and interconnected, and mankind's collective "angst"
is a Prime Mover, of everything else! it must take untold Legions of Angels, just to hold it together even as it is!

so we made it. to the year 2000/2001 AD! now many of us can Go Home!
[notice, sports fans, the newspaper articles, whether nationally or local, where there might be an article like what i saw the other day...."the Minister's son, the person who was everyone's favorite high school teacher, dies in a freak car accident yesterday, he was 28"!]
Old Souls Going Home.
maybe going home so to help prepare heaven for the REST OF US, who could arrive en-masse, soon! anyway, i read about so many people who are everyone's favorite people, who die young in strange accidents. surely you each have read of some of these...
Omenious!!
Rapture in slow motion!

so
enjoy the very LAST of "indian summer"! get ready for Winter.....
well I went and read that book, that book that i refered to, in my last entry, the book of channeled material from Trance, where four Guides spoke through a medium, in England, around 1992.
[this morning's weblog entry: the last post before this one]

while I liked the material channeled, i was brought up rudely short by something that i see in ALL spirit teachings!! all of the Teachings that i read seem to be *very* colored by the culture that the mediums and class of students are in!

So here are four guides....

one guide is a ex-Roman soldier who guarded the Coliseum when the christians were so killed there. then he became a christian himself and was put to death in the coliseum! About four places, in the chapters, he INSISTS utterly utterly that "why in one week alone there were, in Rome, more people killed in the coliseums, there, then, then in *ALL* of WW I, WWII, and the Holocast combined!
100,000,000 million in one week: do your math, 1.4 million an hour!
he insists with GREAT FEELING that this figure is right. over and over.

then there is another Guide who whenever he speaks about "meat-eating" i can SEE
right in the print his fixed feelings about eating "dead rotten matter"!
"fixed" as in..."never bend a millimeter: break first"! Someone asked him about whether Jesus ate meat; he replied that all of this was "symbolic-only".

[contrast what another Teacher-guide wrote, in another channeling, where he wrote/spoke...."most vegetarians would NOT like to know what Jesus ate! He ate what everyone else around him ate, which included fish, goat, lamb, etc.etc..."]

you do not wanna read what these four guides say about "abortion" or "vivisection"!

English mediums from the spiritualist path.
steeped in their culture. and even a roman soldier, after 2000 years, has not changed his thinkings, exactly what i have read: people do not really change much after they die, the place to really change, is on earth, thus this is why Reincarnation exists, they stand in line just for this!!

even Sathya Sai baba, is a sponge steeped in the India culture.
"no one who eats meet is a disciple of Mine" [oops, guess i will go with Jesus!]
"one should eat...[India food"...a long list of India food]
" the most important thing to do on earth is to marry and have a family and true love takes years to develop, so "who" is not important" [arranged marriages]

[ all zen people disciples eat macrobiotic food, the daily food of the 1400 AD japanese
temple people ]

I have read about 50 biographies of jesus, written by guides and each is different and often radically so!

so.
I find that one must be really *really* discerning, when reading channeled material.
their is Bias at every level, for as long as their is a independant soul giving the channeled messege, that messege is spoken in the tone and of the "surround" of the
culture that the Guide once lived in. then you add the medium's own coloring. then you add the class of students too: their own culture!

funny....many of the Liberals who are very Critical of any channelings or spirit-given writings, where they tear into what is said ala the "Scepical inquirer" type of magizine and attitude: why they accept any and all words, of their favorite
Liberal left political candidate, with utter acceptance, a sponge soaking up water.
the Right too. the new agers too. when a political candidate comes along that seems to speak the Ways of a group of people's percieved needs, why they soak it up without a bit of critical thinkings!!!

thus only 50 to 70 percent is true, in any one spirit messege, probably. like in life from any political candidate, or from any newspaper article about anything.

http://freespace.virgin.net/byrne.john/fst/

FOUR SPIRIT TEACHERS

Marcus · Manyomin · Mayet Ptah · Mentor

TRANCE TALKS

Through the Mediumship of SHEILA JONES

WITH QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Recorded by John Mainwood
Transcribed and Edited by John Byrne

This book has been compiled from the recorded trance lectures given at the Spiritualist Association of Great Britain by the four main spirit teacher-guides of Sheila Jones, who is the trance medium for: Manyomin, Marcus, Mayet Ptah and Mentor - see further details in the foreword.
----I hope this book will be of help and interest to all who read it and I will be very happy if it gives some comfort, knowledge, love and optimism to those who are troubled and searching for peace, truth and understanding.

freestone: I like this one. all 26 chapers are here on this site. one of the guides speaks through the Medium, then the class asks questions. This book will take time to read. Enjoy!

Saturday, August 28, 2004

One reason that i do not write more, i find, is that i never can think of anything to say, when i sit down! comes with being somewhat Autistic, i guess.

the other day a friend asked me if i had any interesting dreams of late and i could not answer him at all. seems that any dream that i could think of, is wrapped up with 20 others and it would take me all day to ramble ramble ramble.
this friend, like all other people, like things to the point! I cannot blame him, but i do not think this way. I have often had to "fall back on", when encountered by strangers on the bus or where ever, to fall back on a kind of "new york city" hashness of accent and tone, because there is NOT 45 minutes to tell this person about the 538 shades of "pea green", that my reply will entail. "sensitivity"
equals "nothing can be said"!!
like: my "rant" about anything of politics! any such rant. any statement that deals with reality that is "49% one thing and 51% the opposite thing, like politics, it would take about 500 sentences to make myself clear about any simple political thing!
It does not help that i think only in pictures! there are not one picture in politics!
Even a question from someone..."will it rain today", is unaswerable!
take me 30 minutes to explain.

see...there is no "yes or no" to anything! in my book, each "thing" that is "bad" has a silver lining, and anything that is "good" has a very very dark side!
often IS "49% vs 51%"!
anything good someone tells me, i can counter it with its valid opposite. and vs-versa!

raise the minimum wage?
yes?
send all our jobs to Asia as all the employers cannot now afford to pay that wage.
*and* the nanosecond after that the wage is raised, ALL the things that the poor buy and need will go up 20% in cost!

go on a diet? I am beginning to read that *IS* the one sure fire way to gain weight 10 years down the road, to an even higher level.

MORAL: anything and everything is interconnected to all things, so that if you move just one thing, all the sticks get re-arranged, there are unforeseen consequences to each and every Act, as all is intertwinned!

raise that wage and your favorite coffee shop closes.
go on a diet and then get age-lines in your now-skinny face and then you pay $$$ for the operation!

thus...sports fans...when i talk of "one thing" it is interconnected to all things so that i find it inCrrrrrrrredibly difficult to just talk about one thing without bringing in other topics, sometimes 20 or more, as all is intertwinned: if you asked
me to give to you for a moment so that you can look at it, my wool sweater, you would think me a bit weird if i were to pull off three threads and then give them to you: you want all that sweater! all the threads make the sweater.
thus, in my writings in my weblog, as well as in my talkings, i am unashame-edly

biased and bigoted

as I can only type about 5 wpm and thus all the "interconnected sensitivities", that require 59 other sentences to explain, cannot be said at all!
same with talking to someone. i would bore to death, constantly explaining my explains and then adding yet more and then more...

---so ask me about raising taxes to pay for schools! this is an example of my problem, this statement.
how, how can i tell you?!!
yes?
no?
that is what most want as an answer, but i see 597 shades of "yes", or...*AND* "no"!
and all at the same time and valid!

why?
how?
what side effect will there be?
who will pay for it?
how about the people without kids, will they pay?
what else will not be paid for: the bus, the road repairs?
---and 200 other questions and concerns.